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Impossible to know really.
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Aren't all the pros still cheating?
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By far the most exciting race that I ever watched on the networks was the 1994 Paris Roubaix.
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It was a joke fiamme red. Every time a thread like this is started it ends the same way. Lance sucks, Lance is great, LeMond didn't cheat, LeMond was better, -7, blah, blah, blah. It's like Campy vs Shimano, SRAM is junk, etc. Just gets old. I was trying to be funny. Didn't come across that way it appears. Carry on the debate that will never end. And in a month or so do it all over again. Yay.
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I remember thinking it was boring cause you thought Lance was going to win no matter what.
But I also remember watching and just thinking the whole thing was ridiculous and there was no way he could win again, something bad has to happen this year, he's going to crash, or have a bad day, or whatever. For me it always comes down to his competitors crashing and he always seemed to keep the rubber side down. There were numerous years if Lance had crashed an Ulrich hadn't we wouldn't be having this conversation, Lance might have been +3 or +4 and Pantani or Ulrich would have been +2 or +3 or something. In the end the thing that makes the races boring for me are hundreds of miles of flat with one team train "setting the pace" and nothing happens for hours. Maybe USPS made that worse but certainly the teams have not changed anything since the USPS days. Froome was Armstrong all over again only with less souplesse and way more boring riding the PM. |
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I had a chance to meet Phil Liggett at the Tour dupont back in '90. Stood on the side of the road during the Wilmington TT and talked to him for probably half an hour. Tremendously nice gentleman and all around good guy. Sad that people continue to try to paint him into a corner regarding Lance.
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Not a Lance fan but his riding style also changed it improved his chances to win. He improved on the two things he sucked and some previous winners were good at . Time Trials and Mountains. Last edited by ceya; 03-03-2021 at 05:08 PM. |
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Please.. there's no responsible/scientific research that shows some riders will respond better to illegal PED programs than others and that the rampant PED use tilted the playing field towards some dopers vs others.
No one is going to run that study in a responsible way.. if you did it in a lot of countries the researchers could end up in jail. Rogue doctors working for pro sports teams running fly by night programs doesn't make it scientific research. Most of these teams/riders had spotty access to their drugs and made mistakes and all kinds of other issues. And actual racing has way too many confounding variables to ever be used as proof of the drugs helping one rider/team more than another. |
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I found the racing exciting. Sure maybe some stages seemed preordained. but there were moments for sure. Loved being able to watch the race, every stage, for three weeks. instead of reading a 3 sentence statement on the back of the sports page or waiting for the five minutes allotted on wide world of sports I'd also add, that being on the west coast means 4am and 5am starts for live mountain stages. The years that overlapped the World Cup made for some really long days on the couch. Last edited by pdmtong; 03-02-2021 at 12:51 PM. |
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EXCEPT the one year he ran up ventoux, gapped the field downhill, and made the split with sagan. those three stages completely changed my view of Froome from a head down bore to someone with huge heart and nerve.
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Yep, for about 15 years now...
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His 80k Giro escape was also the kind of thing you just don't see anymore.
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