Custom Carbon

[Jeff N.]

Looks to me like a rebadged import. Integrated headset, no barrel adjusters...when I see stuff like that, I just start thinking import. Jeff N.

to the op.... why not give the fellow that makes those lovely crumptons a call?
one has the feeling he 'gets it' in every sense o the word.

[pdxmech13]

Originally Posted by e-RICHIE

that's what eliot spitzer's allies said too atmo.

relentlessly funny......

[davids]

Originally Posted by swoop

cough. (pilfered from their gallery)

Complete with camouflage paint to hide the hideous shape.

The shape. The paint. I've got a headache now.

...I've never seen an all-carbon Seven, either. Any of the three purported models.

[oldfatslow]

I've had a chance to some of Nick's work. They are absolutely stunning. I still have not seen a Meivici (hoping to see one soon). My humble opinion of carbon is go cheap as it is disposable and save your Benjamins for custom steel or, dare I say it, titanium.

[jjb]

Originally Posted by swoop

to the op.... why not give the fellow that makes those lovely crumptons a call?
one has the feeling he 'gets it' in every sense o the word.

I have a time vxrs I'm quite happy with, and if my better half lets me get a new sled I will probably be looking at a cross bike in ti or ss. If I was looking to get another carbon bike would probably do exactly what you suggest. I was just curious.

-jjb

[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by davids

Complete with camouflage paint to hide the hideous shape.

The shape. The paint. I've got a headache now.

I think I'd prefer to see that bike with a different paint job and a different set of wheels before I could even begin to form an opinion on whether the shape is attractive or not. Right now it's just causing way too many cortical synapses to misfire randomly.

Speaking of custom carbon, does Aegis do "full custom"?

[Blue Jays]

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Speaking of custom carbon, does Aegis do "full custom"?

Not quite yet. They do make a variety of sizes and will offer guidance on which model will fit best based on your physical requirements since they have varying top tubes given a certain seat tube dimension.
Nice folks up there in Maine. You'll enjoy speaking with them.

[mcteague]

Originally Posted by Jeff N.

Looks to me like a rebadged import. Integrated headset, no barrel adjusters...when I see stuff like that, I just start thinking import. Jeff N.

Look at the goofy wrap around pieces at the headtube. Only Seven seem to do this so I don't think it is a rebadge.

Tim McTeague

[BUTCH RIDES]

bro guess you would not see another bike like that at starbucks
cheers

[BumbleBeeDave]

Originally Posted by jjb

Yikes! What else can you really say. I'm not crazy about the tube shapes and seat mast but you add the paint on top of that too.

+1 . . . Make the whole thing in stealth black and it might, just might look cool. But that paint job makes it look like something out of the kiddie play yard at Six Flags . . .

Where's that animated barfing emoticon when we need it? . . .

BBD

for me.. by the time the tubes have this large a profile it just makes a sloppy ride in any real world conditions (ie wind). its worth it for a tt set up... but to do major time on something that fat seems to me to have lost the way of good bikin'.

there's another seven carbon model too.. i think they just need to clean up the headtube and ask themselves some serious questions about who they (seven) are and what tube shapes represent a company that does so well working the beautiful construction and materials of their ti and ti/carbon bikes. seven is a company that should be about details. and a headtube that looks like its designed to cover their arses size wise doesn't look like a good detail).


if i were seven i'd have a ti bike that had a seat mast option (a real minimalist piece of art). i'd keep the elium race. and in whatever carbon i'm making i'd stick to the top shelf materials... that filament wound stuff is a gorgeous material.
if they can find a way to join the tubes at the level of that material.. i'd buy it in a flash. i think they'd do well to look at parlee and crumptons work (with all due respect to parlee and crumpton)

the final thing i'd want from them is just a working man's ALUMINUM race bike. starship tubing, big ugly welds, functional geo, simple flat primer paint job. let the focus be the materials and the fork and hit a price point where the bike becomes a sensible option. sell then with the tiniest of margins to local clubs... make it a tool rather than a bedroom masterpiece.

my point is that seven needs to identify themselves with a concept.. and in my mind that concept should be mastery of materials and minimalism.
if they want to push the envelop.. . play with the bb width of how to seat the bearings...
and don't make any motorcycles.

that being said... i don't know how seven and serotta make payroll. i can see a one or two man operation doing well and i can see the whole specialized china bike thing... but i don't know how you pay 30 people and make payroll and bikes. i get the feeling all parties concerned live that question too.

[davids]

Originally Posted by swoop

if i were seven i'd have a ti bike that had a seat mast option (a real minimalist piece of art). i'd keep the elium race. and in whatever carbon i'm making i'd stick to the top shelf materials... that filament wound stuff is a gorgeous material.
if they can find a way to join the tubes at the level of that material.. i'd buy it in a flash. i think they'd do well to look at parlee and crumptons work (with all due respect to parlee and crumpton)

the final thing i'd want from them is just a working man's race bike. starship tubing, big ugly welds, functional geo, simple flat primer paint job. let the focus be the materials and the fork and hit a price point where the bike becomes a sensible option. sell then with the tiniest of margins to local clubs... make it a tool rather than a bedroom masterpiece.

my point is that seven needs to identify themselves with a concept.. and in my mind that concept should be mastery of materials and minimalism.
if they want to push the envelop.. . play with the bb width of how to seat the bearings...
and don't make any motorcycles.

Wrong thread. And you misspelled "Serotta" a few times, I think...

Originally Posted by davids

Wrong thread. And you misspelled "Serotta" a few times, I think...

thanks... but we are talkign about that ugly carbon seven no?
and yeah.. i mispell because i am. it's like jazz.

besides, my dog wrote this and the lack of thumb does make the typing hardmo.

[Grant McLean]

Originally Posted by swoop

if i were seven i'd have a ti bike that had a seat mast option (a real minimalist piece of art). i'd keep the elium race. and in whatever carbon i'm making i'd stick to the top shelf materials... that filament wound stuff is a gorgeous material.
if they can find a way to join the tubes at the level of that material.. i'd buy it in a flash.

I'd like an Ottrott with a ti seat mast.
The Serottavagen version.

-g