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01-24-2008, 08:47 PM
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2--this story made me think about needless death. guns, cars are 2 really common causes of preventable deaths, and there could be an alternate way (i know there won't be here in the USA--but as a responsible driver and gun owner i'd give up both if the mass transit and laws headed that way) 3. Go Navy--no kidding I SUPPORT and DEFEND, i just said this sort of story makes me understand vengeance--as in I'd struggle with loosing a loved one to a circumstance such as this and watch said person get 10 years for it. just voicing my opinion, appreciate yours, but it comes across as a lecture. jim 
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01-24-2008, 08:57 PM
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01-24-2008, 09:15 PM
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Sorry, perhaps I should have worded it differently. Such as "isn't the picture callous also?" It treats the death penalty as a joke. It is callous. Only the degree of callousness can be debated.
I can only imagine what her family must feel about both her behavior and pictures of nooses.
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01-24-2008, 09:18 PM
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This is all about someone who just doesn't get it... doesn't appreciate the significance of what she's done...
She needs therapy---or she gets out in 8-10 years and does the same damn thing again.
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01-24-2008, 10:00 PM
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During the conversation, the man told Arrington that an acquaintance believed she should get a medal and a parade because she had "taken out" a "tree hugger, a bicyclist, a Frenchman and a gay guy all in one shot." Arrington laughed. When the man said he knew it was a terrible thing to say, she responded, "No, it's not." No feelings of remorse for the victim or the crime, even after sobering up. I wonder what the family of the victim thinks about her and nooses. I think it's a simple equation imho.
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01-24-2008, 10:21 PM
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Tragic
The lesson is that whatever point of view allows us to de-humanize people and treat them as expendable is what calls into question our own humanity
It also highlights that I am much more likely to be killed by a callous hateful co-citizen than Al Queda and that the punishment does not fit the crime here ... Just imagine I got drunk and fired a gun towards the road, hit an innocent person and laughed about it. I can assure you I would be going away for more than 10 years.
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01-24-2008, 10:29 PM
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The judge may be constrained . . .
. . . by sentencing "guidelines" for the specific charge. He may have wanted to put her away for much longer but been unable to do it.
Unfortunately, it's been my experience that people with these kinds of attitudes about others don't pick them up out of thin air. Someone taught them to think like that, probably though example. Parents? Siblings? Childhood friends? I'll go out on a limb and wildly speculate that her family is probably more angry at the length of the sentence she got than disturbed by the tragedy of what she has done to another person. I tend to think there is a special place for people like this and I fervently hope she ends up there. And no, I don't mean jail. BBD
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01-24-2008, 11:08 PM
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That may be true, but it also speaks to the charge brought in the first place. The powers that be discovered she was a bad egg after the phone call. I am speculating but I say they were late to the scene. I have been involved in death row cases where someone of the "wrong" race got in a bar fight they did not start with the wrong person, so again I say killing cyclists is not punished as severly as it should be in our system. As to what ultimate punishment this woman deserves, that it not for me to decide but she can only hope for more mercy and compassion than she has shown in her life to date
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01-25-2008, 05:57 AM
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She hit the jackpot. I've always said that our laws are screwy. If you kill someone with a car, and are drunk, you get off easier than if you are sober and use another object...
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01-25-2008, 07:32 AM
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In all honesty, the posting of the original noose picture is a knee-jerk reaction to something I consider a heinous disregard for human life. I am actually opposed to the death penalty, and am ashamed that I, too, occasionally feel so angry about a murder/rape/other that I wish the offender were summarily hanged. It makes me feel small inside.
Sometimes bigger people can more quickly step back and apply calmer reasoning. I don't think it's because they love people any less, either. Thanks, Fixed.
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