Cool Ti Refinishing (Agave Finishworks)

[m_sasso]

I received an Ebay message stating they were accepting offers, so I sent them one, will see what kind of reply I receive in return.

[homagesilkhope]

Originally Posted by berserk87

Not if you are really, really short.

Good one.

[AngryScientist]

Originally Posted by m_sasso

I received an Ebay message stating they were accepting offers, so I sent them one, will see what kind of reply I receive in return.

that's awesome. hope you can bring this one home!

[weiwentg]

Agave is now selling anodized King ti cages. Any thoughts on how the ano finish would hold up to use?




They also have a few other colors.

[happycampyer]

My understanding is that the anodizing can only be removed by removing the anodized material, e.g., by abrasion (scotchbrite, blasting, etc.). I don’t think a plastic water bottle can remove material, so I would expect it to be safe. Perhaps Tyler (or someone who actually does this for a living) will chime in.

[zambenini]

Golly, anodized ti is cool. There's that rapid tour in the galleries at Agave.

When I get some cash I'ma have Jim Kish or somebody build something like my Cielo hardtail mtb in ti.

[dookie]

Ano ti does eventually fade, just like it does on al. And I would suspect that it would wear off a cage with enough plastic bottle cycles through it, just like it does on al.

My 25 year old Moots used to be a lot brighter.

http://middlepath.gotdns.com/bikes/moots.jpg

[AngryScientist]

those do look nifty!

my guess is they will wear in the rub spots where you take a bottle in and out, and yes, they will likely fade in the sun.

one thing that comes to mind is i have a couple sets of Paul skewers that are anodized and the color is now much less bright then when new.

side note is that i had a set of king ti cages powder coated with my zanc and they have held up remarkably well.

[weiwentg]

About those cages: I emailed the site, and the owner said he had a pair in daily use. They've held up. He does expect the cages to show scuffing where the bottle is inserted and removed. They also have purple, gold, and blue cages. They've got King straws anodized in green-turquoise and pink-purple fades also.

Not yet mentioned on the thread, but he seems to have worked at Moots in the past.

[Philly4eyes]

I'm going to have to book mark this for when I decide to refinish my moots. It's $$ bu the custom option looks sick!

[weiwentg]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

...my guess is they will wear in the rub spots where you take a bottle in and out, and yes, they will likely fade in the sun.

one thing that comes to mind is i have a couple sets of Paul skewers that are anodized and the color is now much less bright then when new.

...

Actually, I believe that for aluminum, anodizing involves dyeing. For titanium, dyes aren't involved. I think anodizing titanium just changes the thickness of the ti oxide layer on the surface. It's that layer that produces the color effects.

Wikipedia appears to back me up on this. This knife site appears to do the same.

So ... does ti oxide degrade simply by being in the sun? I wouldn't guess so, but I'm not a chemist. Anyone have more informed thoughts on this?

[happycampyer]

So, I have it from a pretty reliable source that a water bottle by itself would not cause the anodization to wear off. However, when grit from the road wedges itself between the bottle and the cage, the anodization will wear off where the grit rubs.

[weiwentg]

Originally Posted by happycampyer

So, I have it from a pretty reliable source that a water bottle by itself would cause the anodization to wear off. However, when grit from the road wedges itself between the bottle and the cage, the anodization will wear off where the grit rubs.

Did you mean that a water bottle by itself would not cause ti anodization to rub off?

[happycampyer]

Originally Posted by weiwentg

Did you mean that a water bottle by itself would not cause ti anodization to rub off?

Oops, fixed it. That is correct.

[cgolvin]

Originally Posted by weiwentg

They also have purple, gold, and blue cages.

Hmm, the highlight colors on my 'ethnic' Duende are purple, gold, and blue. I guess I could buy all 3 then put them in rotation