i guess we know this but the insides of carbon bikes are not pretty

[eddief]

nice ones look so fine on the outside but don't you dare cut one open and do a 15 minute vid. supports the concept of steel is more real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FYAUa9gzJM

[yinzerniner]

Originally Posted by eddief

supports the concept of steel is more real

Because so many people look at the inside of bikes to assuage their aesthetic yearnings?

[GonaSovereign]

Look inside a Time or Colnago or any recent high-end carbon frame and the inside looks almost as good as the outside.

[Vientomas]

Not all carbon frames are constructed the same way. Tube to tube vs. in mold contruction. I would suspect tube to tube construction results in a less messy result.

[tctyres]

First, Leuscher Teknik is great. He worked in aerospace CF for a long time and then switched over to bikes full time. Overall, his language is pretty supportive of the construction of that frame.

I don't see how this justifies "steel is more real" in any way.
If you cut open a production steel bike, you'd probably see a lot of flaws in the joins and potentially in the tubes themselves.

Ride what you want if it suits you.

The carbon trolling has sort of played out with me.

NB: All my bikes are metal.

[prototoast]

Originally Posted by Vientomas

Not all carbon frames are constructed the same way. Tube to tube vs. in mold contruction. I would suspect tube to tube construction results in a less messy result.

With tube-to-tube construction, the results can be just as messy, but the mess is on the outside, not the inside.

[soulspinner]

Ive seen a lot worse and a few that were much tidier inside, no voids etc.

[berserk87]

Originally Posted by yinzerniner

Because so many people look at the inside of bikes to assuage their aesthetic yearnings?

That is the post of the week - and it's only Monday! Strong work, my friend.

[cbbr]

So that's why running new cable in my Roubaix is a PITA. Cool video.