OT - Ohtani's 50/50

[wc1934]

SO is the first player to hit 50 home runs and steal 50 bases in a single season.
The other nite he went 6-6, with 3 HR, 10 rbi's and 2 stolen bases!!!

Amazing -

[Spdntrxi]

I really want a Dodger vs yankee WS.

[XXtwindad]

Originally Posted by Spdntrxi

I really want a Dodger vs yankee WS.

So does Rob Manfred.

[XXtwindad]

Originally Posted by wc1934

SO is the first player to hit 50 home runs and steal 50 bases in a single season.
The other nite he went 6-6, with 3 HR, 10 rbi's and 2 stolen bases!!!

Amazing -

I was just discussing this with cgolvin last night. This is a golden era for baseball. They’ve unleashed athleticism by making it more conducive to steal bases. It’s great for the game. Has there ever been a more exciting player than Rickey Henderson?

No.

But the fastest and best ranked defensive player in the game today is Bobby Witt Jr. And that’s shocking considering his shortstop counterpoint in the NL
is Elly De La Cruz, who is the closest approximation to Rickey I’ve seen in a long time (speed+power+charisma). And that’s just scratching the surface. Judge. Ohtani. Soto. Acuna (the first 40/70 player in the game.)

If I had to build a team around one player, I’d be hard pressed to make that choice. Maybe Witt Jr.

[wc1934]

Originally Posted by Spdntrxi

I really want a Dodger vs yankee WS.

Dodgers ain't dem bums anymore.

Judge vs Ohtani HR contest!!!

[XXtwindad]

Just to clarify: Ohtani is having an incredible season. A shoo-in for the NL MVP. And the most unique player in MLB history. (If Ruth ran like Cobb, it would be a different story) It will be interesting to see if the Dodgers continue to utilize him as a two-way player.

[Mr. Pink]

Originally Posted by wc1934

Dodgers ain't dem bums anymore.

Judge vs Ohtani HR contest!!!

They've proven themselves in the box. Put both on the mound and see who wins.

[Xrslug]

Originally Posted by wc1934

SO is the first player to hit 50 home runs and steal 50 bases in a single season.
The other nite he went 6-6, with 3 HR, 10 rbi's and 2 stolen bases!!!

Amazing -

It was interesting to read his teammates’ reactions to that game (6/6, 3HR, 10RBI, etc.) and his season in general. They seem genuinely flabbergasted in a way that I’m not used to hearing pro athletes (particularly baseball players) talk about other athletes. One of his teammates wondered if that game in particular was the best offensive baseball performance ever, and said he had never seen anything like it going back to his time in Little League, let alone as a pro.

[Elefantino]

Originally Posted by Spdntrxi

I really want a Dodger vs yankee WS.

I want to see who's going to beat the Dodgers in the playoffs.

Originally Posted by XXtwindad

So does Rob Manfred.

It actually would be good for baseball. But Rob Manfred doesn't do "good for baseball." He makes Bud Selig look good by comparison.

[ColonelJLloyd]

Originally Posted by XXtwindad

I was just discussing this with cgolvin last night. This is a golden era for baseball. They’ve unleashed athleticism by making it more conducive to steal bases. It’s great for the game. Has there ever been a more exciting player than Rickey Henderson?

No.

But the fastest and best ranked defensive player in the game today is Bobby Witt Jr. And that’s shocking considering his shortstop counterpoint in the NL
is Elly De La Cruz, who is the closest approximation to Rickey I’ve seen in a long time (speed+power+charisma). And that’s just scratching the surface. Judge. Ohtani. Soto. Acuna (the first 40/70 player in the game.)

If I had to build a team around one player, I’d be hard pressed to make that choice. Maybe Witt Jr.

Sort of a renaissance of SS talent happening. It's hard to argue with your choice of EDLC in the NL, but he strikes out a **** ton, way more than Rickey. He also makes a **** ton of defensive errors (league leading). I love watching the kid, but he plays for the Reds so. . .

Do not overlook Masyn Winn. He'd likely be the ROY in most years, but the NL rookie class is friggin' stacked.

Originally Posted by XXtwindad

Just to clarify: Ohtani is having an incredible season. A shoo-in for the NL MVP. And the most unique player in MLB history. (If Ruth ran like Cobb, it would be a different story) It will be interesting to see if the Dodgers continue to utilize him as a two-way player.

People really need to accept that today's players are light years ahead of those in Ruth's era. The game was different in myriad ways. If Ruth were playing now he might only be average.

[XXtwindad]

[QUOTE=ColonelJLloyd;3424842]Sort of a renaissance of SS talent happening. It's hard to argue with your choice of EDLC in the NL, but he strikes out a **** ton, way more than Rickey. He also makes a **** ton of defensive errors (league leading). I love watching the kid, but he plays for the Reds so. . .

Do not overlook Masyn Winn. He'd likely be the ROY in most years, but the NL rookie class is friggin' stacked.



People really need to accept that today's players are light years ahead of those in Ruth's era. The game was different in myriad ways. If Ruth were playing now he might only be average.[/QUOTE]

Interesting argument. You’re probably right about Ruth. But where do you draw the line? Is Ted Williams no longer the best “pure” hitter the game has ever seen? Is Willie Mays no longer the greatest player, period?

[XXtwindad]

Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd

Sort of a renaissance of SS talent happening. It's hard to argue with your choice of EDLC in the NL, but he strikes out a **** ton, way more than Rickey. He also makes a **** ton of defensive errors (league leading). I love watching the kid, but he plays for the Reds so. . .

Do not overlook Masyn Winn. He'd likely be the ROY in most years, but the NL rookie class is friggin' stacked.



People really need to accept that today's players are light years ahead of those in Ruth's era. The game was different in myriad ways. If Ruth were playing now he might only be average.

Edit: Just so you know where I’m coming from: I’m a child of the Eighties. There never will be a baseball player as elegant and classy as The Wizard. He played like he was wearing a tuxedo instead of a jersey. My favorite player of all time. Bar none.

[jlwdm]

Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd

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People really need to accept that today's players are light years ahead of those in Ruth's era. The game was different in myriad ways. If Ruth were playing now he might only be average.

Or he might be the best. He was an excellent pitcher, hit for average and hit way more home runs than other home run hitters of his era.

He clearly was special.

Jeff

[mdeth1313]

Originally Posted by jlwdm

Or he might be the best. He was an excellent pitcher, hit for average and hit way more home runs than other home run hitters of his era.

He clearly was special.

Jeff

The homerun thing can be a bit overblown. Relief pitchers were a rarity and not nearly as specialized as they are in the modern era. If a pitcher was having a bad game and/or someone else was brought in it was considered "up your average" time (HR's for Ruth).

[Xrslug]

Another moment from the record-breaking Ohtani game that I thought was great and so old school baseball — when SO was up to bat with runners on second and third, when he was still at 49 homers, there was some question as to whether the Marlins would walk him: "F--- that," a television camera showed Marlins manager Skip Schumaker saying in his dugout. "I've got too much respect for this guy for that s--- to happen."