Bixxis Prima frameset

[Velocipede]

Originally Posted by flying

Thanks!

Is there a stock geometry chart available?
Also is there a price difference for stock geometry & finish vs Custom? I see the price above you said is for custom.

Is Doriano the welder of all frames?

Thanks again!

Flying,

I've posted the stock geometry charts for the Prima, Prima D11 and Pathos. I do not have a "stock" geometry chart for the Epopea or the other new frame yet. As soon as I do I will post them as well.

There is no pricing difference between stock and custom geometry. There is a price difference depending on the finish of the frames. Obviously if you go with a color changing paint, it will cost more than a single color and a brushed frame.

Yes, Doriano welds all the frames. Martina helps with finish work and packing the frames up. Doriano and Martina started Bixxis to get back to actually making frames themselves by hand.

You're welcome! Let me know If you have any other questions. Happy to help.

[Jef58]

Mine is slightly different than the stock geometry...which I wasn't aware there was one. They are basically tailored, made to measure frames with custom finishes. None of this was at an extra cost.
I found the price very competitive considering the headset, PMP Ti post and seat tube clamp is included. Best of all, Doriano has the background and experience to make it a no brainer if you want a 'skinny' tire Italian road bike. The frame comfortably fits a 25 Conti GP on a wide rim, which is the biggest tire I ride.

[Velocipede]

Originally Posted by Jef58

Mine is slightly different than the stock geometry...which I wasn't aware there was one. They are basically tailored, made to measure frames with custom finishes. None of this was at an extra cost.
I found the price very competitive considering the headset, PMP Ti post and seat tube clamp is included. Best of all, Doriano has the background and experience to make it a no brainer if you want a 'skinny' tire Italian road bike. The frame comfortably fits a 25 Conti GP on a wide rim, which is the biggest tire I ride.

The only thing that would add cost to the price would be something like color changing paint. The other finishes are included. Color changing paint is incredibly expensive and difficult to do. That's the only reason why it would be an uncharge.

[flying]

Originally Posted by Velocipede

Yes, Doriano welds all the frames. Martina helps with finish work and packing the frames up. Doriano and Martina started Bixxis to get back to actually making frames themselves by hand.

You're welcome! Let me know If you have any other questions. Happy to help.

Thank You for the charts & additional info!

Very good to hear that Doriano & Martina are the builders & nice to see the passion!

This frame (Prima) is very much at the top of my list for switching to (back) to steel in the near future

[Velocipede]

Originally Posted by flying

Thank You for the charts & additional info!

Very good to hear that Doriano & Martina are the builders & nice to see the passion!

This frame (Prima) is very much at the top of my list for switching to (back) to steel in the near future

No problem. Happy to help. Let me know if there are any other questions I can answer. You can email me at info@velocipedeimports.com

Michael

[Jef58]

Originally Posted by Velocipede

The only thing that would add cost to the price would be something like color changing paint. The other finishes are included. Color changing paint is incredibly expensive and difficult to do. That's the only reason why it would be an uncharge.

Yes, what I meant about custom finishes is that you can spec out different combos and styles. I opted for the etched top tube, seat tube and chain stays so I wouldn't overpower the small frame, especially with the white panel.

I'm sure a fully painted Ti frame would be different, but there is a lot of leeway in configuring the basic finishes.

On a side note, I've always wanted a Pegoretti, but I would have taken the Prima instead after knowing about it...

[Velocipede]

Originally Posted by Jef58

Yes, what I meant about custom finishes is that you can spec out different combos and styles. I opted for the etched top tube, seat tube and chain stays so I wouldn't overpower the small frame, especially with the white panel.

I'm sure a fully painted Ti frame would be different, but there is a lot of leeway in configuring the basic finishes.

On a side note, I've always wanted a Pegoretti, but I would have taken the Prima instead after knowing about it...

Gotcha. Misunderstood your comment. Yeah, it's really nice that while they have kind of set ideas they've done in the past, it's really a blank slate for the frames. Honestly, I think a color changing paint might not look the best on Bixxis. Maybe as an accent like for the graphics and the headbadge. But these are such classic frames. They need the looks to go with that.

To your last comment, I always wanted a Pegoretti as well. I think it was more than finish than anything. But like you said, I'd probably go with a Bixxis given everything especially knowing Doriano is making it.

[Jef58]

Just as my frame was finishing up, the pictures of the new lugged Epic came out. I still would have went with Ti since I never had this material, but I could see myself on one of these. I imagine it will be a very nice riding bike to those who always lusted for a classic DeRosa.

I think what really attracted me to them was the history and their philosophy of what a bike should be. A simple classic style that is very different than the current crop of high end bikes. There is no gravel or off road where I live so a pure road bike is all I need. They are a great small company with one of the most capable designer/builders out there.

[colker]

Originally Posted by Velocipede

Flying,

I've posted the stock geometry charts for the Prima, Prima D11 and Pathos. I do not have a "stock" geometry chart for the Epopea or the other new frame yet. As soon as I do I will post them as well.

There is no pricing difference between stock and custom geometry. There is a price difference depending on the finish of the frames. Obviously if you go with a color changing paint, it will cost more than a single color and a brushed frame.

Yes, Doriano welds all the frames. Martina helps with finish work and packing the frames up. Doriano and Martina started Bixxis to get back to actually making frames themselves by hand.

You're welcome! Let me know If you have any other questions. Happy to help.

Looks like De Rosa geo from their primato.

[Velocipede]

Originally Posted by colker

Looks like De Rosa geo from their primato.

It could be given who made the Primato at De Rosa(Doriano did majority of the Primato frames).

[Velocipede]

Originally Posted by Jef58

Just as my frame was finishing up, the pictures of the new lugged Epic came out. I still would have went with Ti since I never had this material, but I could see myself on one of these. I imagine it will be a very nice riding bike to those who always lusted for a classic DeRosa.

I think what really attracted me to them was the history and their philosophy of what a bike should be. A simple classic style that is very different than the current crop of high end bikes. There is no gravel or off road where I live so a pure road bike is all I need. They are a great small company with one of the most capable designer/builders out there.

I agree with both statements. I love the idea of Doriano making me a classic SLX lugged frame. I've always been a fan of lugged frames so the Epopea is super attractive. I know a couple people who are going to place orders at NAHBS. One guy has a Prima and so does his wife. They went to Italy and had the full treatment done. He saw the Epopea prototypes when he was there two months ago. He's the one who sent me pics of it in the vise.

[tttsmm]

here's mine...



they are great bikes...

[Velocipede]

Originally Posted by tttsmm

here's mine...



they are great bikes...

I hadn't seen that color scheme before. Very unique.

[Jef58]

There are a few Asian Facebook and Instagram Bixxis sites that are loaded with images. It's apparent that Bixxis has a pretty good following in that part of the world. That is what helped me decide as most are on smaller frames like mine, so I knew he had a lot of experience in smaller sizes.

All of the builds look good to me, and haven't seen one paint scheme I didn't like.

[Velocipede]

I worked for an Italian company before and the following in Asia of Italian brands is massive. We used to get a ton of business especially from Japan. So I am not surprised that Bixxis has a large following there.