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I always thought that about dry lube like White Lightening when it first came out
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I have been using the Silca melted wax product for a few months. It seems to last a little longer than MSW and the viscosity seems different, maybe more bees wax or something in it. Dunno. No long rain rides yet. Better than MSW? No idea but very good stuff
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Silca Super Secret Lube 3000km review
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Hot water removes wax from a chain. Water can wash oil based lube from a chain. Oil isn't soluble in water either, so solubility is irrelevant. There's plenty of evidence that wax doesn't hold up in the rain https://jimlangley.blogspot.com/2009...ain-lubes.html A: Good questions, guys. Whether or not a wax-based bicycle lube, or basic paraffin will work as a bicycle chain lube depends mostly on where and how you ride. Wax is best for relatively dry, clean climates and on bikes that aren't ridden in the rain or wet. Even the ZFC site you quoted says that after a wet ride, the chain should be wiped down and rewaxed, as the chain will rust. Last edited by MikeD; 11-04-2021 at 09:44 AM. |
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I can chime in on extreme conditions usage. This past year’s Rule of 3 gravel race was a total weather monster. Raining, single track, gravel, heavy clay-based soils and super sandy soils then finally somewhat dry single track. Everything was mud. It was both operator and equipment hell. I’ll load a photo of post-race bike. Most everyone’s bike sounded like it wanted to fall apart after 10 miles. I couldn’t hear my chain until around mile 75. I washed my bike, cleaned my chain and relubed and it still has almost no wear. Last edited by drewskey; 11-04-2021 at 02:22 PM. |
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I get 10,000 miles before the chain is at 0.4, less than halfway to recommended replacement. That is about where I replace. I do not do much off road riding but I do a decent amount of riding in the rain, for instance, I never skip a training session because it is raining. I am interested to learn or understand the difference from Silca to MSW. Both are excellent in all conditions. If Josh's wax does last longer than MSW, it would be well worth the extra money. I have a hard time extrapolating from the zerofriction to real world results....But it is really great so far. Last edited by ripvanrando; 11-04-2021 at 01:19 PM. |
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Great review. I picked up a bottle of Super Secret mostly to help extend mileage between hot waxings especially on trips. One thing I noticed is that it's very drippy. I haven't found the proper speed at which the cranks should be rotated while dripping the wax onto the chain such that the drips end up on the rollers instead of falling in between.
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charliedid, it was the super secret, but on a new chain Dura Ace chain that had just been cleaned, left in the tub of super secret for 24 hours (with LOTS of shaking), and then hung up for a couple of months, only being brought out day-of.
And yeah, Josh - i'll trade you a photo and testimonial for another jar |
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Firstly I'm glad my review was well received and has added some value for you guys
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1. Shake bottle 2. Undo nozzle to about halfway 3. With chain at relatively straight chain line in big ring, drip onto top section of chain as backpedalling 4. After one revolution of entire chain (i.e. one drop per roller) massage in with fingers That process tends to not leave any of the solution on the floor, it only gets there if i clumsily miss the chain when squeezing. I do find it absolutely imperative to be applying onto a clean chain OR a chain that has previous build up of super secret (i assume previous build up of MSW would be find too). When attempting to apply on top of any other lubes that haven't been fully removed (via turps/metho) it literally slides right off the chain. Quote:
https://zerofrictioncycling.com.au/lubetesting/ Last edited by jimoots; 11-04-2021 at 07:14 PM. |
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How much solvent are you folks going through? And it looks as though Silca wants three separate types, sequentially. Can any of it be run through a coffee filter and re-used? Or do you do several chains at once in each container?
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I don’t use anywhere near that to clean my chains, fwiw, and only use bio degreaser and denatured alcohol.
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[QUOTE=drewskey;3006121]
If there were ever a pic that could sell a product, this would be it. I bought some Silca wax, but I have been too lazy to set it up. This will get me moving, this off season, for sure. |
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