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Old 05-22-2024, 08:20 AM
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maybe not the best way to start the day…

Along the line of health news… unlike the one from yesterday about cyclist’s knee health, this one from NPR is definitely not what I wanted to read about.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...-humans-health

https://youtu.be/eaCHH5D74Fs?si=NOzD-xExR4CJf4nY
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Old 05-22-2024, 08:26 AM
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Ouch, this seems somewhat invasive:

"Instead of trying to count each microplastic particle, the researchers were able to quantify the total amount of plastic by dissolving all the biological tissue and separating out the solids."
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Old 05-22-2024, 08:37 AM
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75% Yikes. We are becoming plastic people.
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Old 05-22-2024, 08:44 AM
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Looking for a positive view here from others, but I don’t like reading about negative impacts to my health I have zero control over especially knowing it’s only going to get worse. Plastic is everywhere and it’s not going away in any of our lifetimes. I just spent my last Sunday at a swim meet as a trash volunteer picking up hundreds of cheap, thin plastic water bottles discarded by the participants. Many were nearly full, roasting in the sun. Of course there was lots of other plastic trash, some rolling out of the perimeter of the event to float to who knows where. Why do people buy plastic bottled water? It is simply something I never do.

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Old 05-22-2024, 09:15 AM
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Why do people buy plastic bottled water? It is simply something I never do.
If they understood they aren't buying the water, they are buying the container they might be more willing to spend once on a reusable one. The water is basically free from any tap

I became "aware" of microplastics about 7 years ago, and since I have trouble eating seafood, which is loaded with it. Fresh water turns out to be just a little better. Birds that live 2000 miles from any humans die with bellies full of plastic they ate thinking it was food, and then starved to death. The stuff is everywhere. I tap bottles in the store when I buy stuff and get the glass ones, even though it's getting harder and harder to recycle that, but at least it isn't going to leech chemicals into whatever is in the bottle.
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Old 05-22-2024, 09:27 AM
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Bottled water has to be one of the biggest scams out there, at least here in the US where most people have access to good clean running water.

The very concept of Fiji water, who claim that 100% of their bottled water, which is available everywhere is enraging. The transportation costs to get water from fiji to my local whole foods is staggering.

Why people buy this stuff is lost on me.

At least most airports now have water bottle filling stations. What another enormous scam there was for a while where TSA wouldnt let you bring water through the checkpoint and your only option on the other side was bottled, overpriced water.
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Old 05-22-2024, 09:49 AM
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Man.. googling this and then looking up the filter we use (Bosch) it makes me feel a little better as the filter we use claims to get rid of 99.9% of particles in the 0.5-1.0 micron size range that the articles are claiming microplastics fall into.

Easy to forget though that even if you're diligent about avoiding bottled water all the other stuff like soda, gatorade, sports drinks, iced tea, etc.. that comes in plastic bottles is likely every bit as bad.
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Old 05-22-2024, 10:39 AM
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Old 05-22-2024, 10:50 AM
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TSA wouldnt let you bring water through the checkpoint and your only option on the other side was bottled, overpriced water.
You mean they do now? We have always brought empty bottles through TSA and filled them up at a water fountain inside.
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Guess “The Graduate” was prescient.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dug-G9xVdVs

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Old 05-22-2024, 01:10 PM
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Man.. googling this and then looking up the filter we use (Bosch) it makes me feel a little better as the filter we use claims to get rid of 99.9% of particles in the 0.5-1.0 micron size range that the articles are claiming microplastics fall into.

Easy to forget though that even if you're diligent about avoiding bottled water all the other stuff like soda, gatorade, sports drinks, iced tea, etc.. that comes in plastic bottles is likely every bit as bad.
Thinking about the refrig and pantry… plastic containers everywhere. Condiments, sauces, spices, oils, aside from the water that I buy. Our municipal water is drawn from the Hudson River and is disgusting.
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Old 05-22-2024, 01:21 PM
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Even canned food often has a BPA liner (at least from what I've read) on the inside of it, and it's apparently broken down by stuff like tomato sauce/paste (acid).
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Old 05-22-2024, 01:34 PM
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I have well water, but of course that's not perfect, either. God only knows what's in that aquifer.

Microplastics were intentionally put in toothpaste for their abrasive qualities. I think this is no longer true, but I'm not sure. Someone here can probably provide a more definitive answer.

Microplastics have been found in the snow in Antarctica.

Having ingested all sorts of plastics for decades, and being on the back side of my lifespan, I wonder if it matters what I do now. (sad face) I'm thinking about replacing my plastic refrigerator storage containers with glass (maybe Pyrex), but I don't know enough yet to decide.

In my area of the US plastics 1-5 and 7 are recyclable. Maybe I need to change my will and have myself recycled at the landfill rather than letting medical students dissect me.

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The microplastics issue is so brutal to sit and think about since it is seemingly unsolvable for an individual and even unsolvable for a country or continent.
At that point, when even a continent wouldnt be able to stop the issue, there is no solving it and throwing your hands up in defeat is understandable.

A person could remove themselves from ever using plastic(basically impossible since I have probably 90 things in my sight right now that are plastic) and they would still be impacted by microplastics.
You simply cant get away from it.




I dont drink water from single use plastic bottles.
I do drink pop from single use plastic bottles.
Oddly, I view not drinking water from single use plastic bottles as a way I am helping this world. Meanwhile, I get 1 pop a day in a plastic bottle.
Our behaviors are really wild to analyze.
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Old 05-22-2024, 01:40 PM
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It's definitely something that needs top down attention.

It seems like without regulations with teeth companies will not do the right thing.

One trip over to Europe will completely tell you it *can* be better though. Not saying they are perfect but there are a bunch of things they do that are clearly better that are not exactly rocket science and not exactly hard. They just require someone to actually tell companies they need to stop what they're doing, and in a lot of cases it's just going back to the way they used to do it.
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