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Old 05-15-2024, 01:25 PM
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That's interesting data. Perhaps my position on the bike is different, but in roll-down tests next to a rider with known aerodynamics, the bag seems to reduce aero drag. Basically, where the bag-free bike (with me on it) coasts slower than the 'reference bike/rider,' with a bag it's almost even.

But this is certainly something that warrants more testing.
This thread has potential now.
Jan is saying resting showed a reduction in overall drag due to using the bag.
Time to pull Josh at Silca into the conversation!
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Old 05-15-2024, 01:29 PM
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I don't understand the pearl clutching here.

The traditional Rene Herse 1930s reenactment look certainly isn't for everyone. In fact, would guess that that market is getting smaller by the day. Why can't they play in this space?
It's Jan's company and brand, and I certainly don't own a brand or have the energy to be a marketer.
I assume he knows which brand name has more presebt value and more potential future value.

...but Compass sure seemed to be a known brand with value and easier to pronounce for newbs. Crazy that 'Rene Herse' has more value.
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Old 05-15-2024, 01:30 PM
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Holding out for the Extralight version that takes 2 hours to put on the bike and slowly weeps your snacks out the sidewalls.
Example 4,385 why this forum needs a 'like' button.
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Old 05-15-2024, 01:37 PM
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I don't understand the pearl clutching here.
But what if I find myself enraged by the existence of products I’m not interested in purchasing?
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Old 05-15-2024, 01:45 PM
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You'd get less pushback on this forum if you had an early bird menu, if you know what I mean ...
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Old 05-15-2024, 02:14 PM
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But what if I find myself enraged by the existence of products I’m not interested in purchasing?
Thread winner.
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Old 05-15-2024, 04:19 PM
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I see our program like the menu of a restaurant. We offer lots of dishes. You choose what you want to eat.
I'd like added to the menu that 29x2.6/2.8 filetread, please
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Old 05-15-2024, 04:44 PM
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I see our program like the menu of a restaurant. We offer lots of dishes. You choose what you want to eat.
A diner I went to last month had sushi on the menu. It also had pizza, tacos, wings, pancakes, and gyros.
It seems like it would be tough to offer a lot of dishes at a high level of quality.
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A diner I went to last month had sushi on the menu. It also had pizza, tacos, wings, pancakes, and gyros.
It seems like it would be tough to offer a lot of dishes at a high level of quality.
What do they call this sort of argument, a 'straw man' fallacy?
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Old 05-15-2024, 05:35 PM
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Old 05-15-2024, 07:50 PM
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What do they call this sort of argument, a 'straw man' fallacy?
I think that one is False Equivalence
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Old 05-15-2024, 09:51 PM
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What do they call this sort of argument, a 'straw man' fallacy?
If anyone calls it that, they would be incorrect, but it absolutely is a faulty argument for me to make, if I were serious.
Of course a wide range of product can still be high quality. It totally depends on the person/company in question.
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Old 05-16-2024, 07:06 AM
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A restaurant can maintain high quality over a wide range of dishes, but how many of them actually do? Probably not many.
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Old 05-16-2024, 08:47 AM
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It's an aside from the bag but in 2024 there is not much excuse for having a phone that you have to worry about getting damaged from rain and having to find a waterproof bag for it.

Whether you like Apple or Android just about anything decent for at least 5 years now has been more than capable of being taken for a swim.

iPhones since at least the 11 can handle depths up to 6 meters/ 20 feet! Just don't drop it snorkeling in 50 feet of water without a tether.

On a long enough ride I take a plastic bag to put my wallet in. My Leather wallet is the least water resistant thing I carry. But basically nothing I carry in my wallet really has an issue. Even an absolute downpour the wallet still protects the stuff inside it.
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Old 05-16-2024, 12:27 PM
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Those burrito bags don't seem to offer on-the-fly accessibility to the contents within them. I don't see the value they offer versus simply using a saddlebag of the same size that is sheltered from the wind.

I do see the value of a front randonneur bag that is attached to a rack. Accessibility is easy and safe so that stuffing a rain jacket into the main compartment, or fetching a molasses cookie to beat back the man with the hammer, can be executed without stopping. I don't think you can do that with a burrito bag.
Agreed. I would rather overstuff my jersey pockets if no more capacity than what this style of bag provides is required…Additionally, and I know that it is my issue, I really can’t stand cluttered handlebar tops. On the other hand when the ride calls for a little more stuff than one can sensibly stuff in his jersey pockets, there is nothing quite like a properly sorted randonneur bag setup. Unfortunately, those setups are sort of like putting a man on the moon….It takes some engineering, the methods were sorted out a long time ago, and it seems to be a technology that is largely lost from civilization.
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