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Old 12-21-2018, 12:41 PM
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What kind of hubs are these?

Why would the OP not get them repaired? It's not difficult or that expensive.

Eventually the ball bearings will be damaged and the hub will turn like it's filled with sand. Leaving it be will only make it worse.
^ this ^ ... most hubs, especially good quality hubs, have serviceable cups that could be removed with a slide hammer and then new ones can be pressed in. Campagnolo still supplies these types of parts and any competent wrench with the correct tools can remove and install new cups in about 5 mins.
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Old 12-21-2018, 01:51 PM
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Number one thing to do when reassembling a hub with rough bearing race(s) is to make sure that there is some play in the axle, to be just taken up by the QR's compression of the axle upon installation of the wheel in the frame or fork.
Start on the loose side, and if some play remains then first just adjust the QR a bit tighter. Worst case is that you might have to tighten the cone adjustment, but which can sometimes take as little as one minute in total.

If it's the cone that has a defect on one location along the race, then just mark that location on the externally-visible portion of the cone and position it to the high side while installing your wheel. It will thus see far less loading on the defective area of the race, but again it is the bearing adjustment that must be firstly addressed (I settle for an adjustment that allows the installed wheel to have a touch of free-play at a single rotational position of the wheel, and only adjust it tighter if such play is somehow noticeable in normal service).
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Old 12-21-2018, 02:32 PM
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Number one thing to do when reassembling a hub with rough bearing race(s) is to make sure that there is some play in the axle, to be just taken up by the QR's compression of the axle upon installation of the wheel in the frame or fork.
Start on the loose side, and if some play remains then first just adjust the QR a bit tighter. Worst case is that you might have to tighten the cone adjustment, but which can sometimes take as little as one minute in total.

If it's the cone that has a defect on one location along the race, then just mark that location on the externally-visible portion of the cone and position it to the high side while installing your wheel. It will thus see far less loading on the defective area of the race, but again it is the bearing adjustment that must be firstly addressed (I settle for an adjustment that allows the installed wheel to have a touch of free-play at a single rotational position of the wheel, and only adjust it tighter if such play is somehow noticeable in normal service).
Good thing I use Campy hubs their hubs can bu adjusted while the wheel is clamped down.
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Old 12-21-2018, 02:46 PM
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This is going to end badly.
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Old 12-21-2018, 04:02 PM
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This is going to end badly.
That likely resulted from a rear freewheel-axle breaking.
It looks to have perhaps been overtightened for some time as well.

I've seen cases of insufficently-tightened driveside locknuts allowing a cone to self-tighten, and the carnage to the cup (big cracks) wasn't fixable.
Left-side pedals used to be seen to do the same thing when a locknut lost it's tension.

Same thing could have happened here. I typically begin servicing bikes having freewheel-style rear hubs by pulling the freewheel and making sure that the cone and locknut are tightly jammed together, in preparation for inspection and spoke adjustments at the truing stand.

Many, many long centuries worth of miles have been ridden on less-than-perfect bearings, and for the most part is of little consequence. Even a full rust-out of a hub's bearing surfaces is something that can go unnoticed for a very long time.

I rebuilt my Schwinn's front hub when I was 6 or 7 years old, put the bearing cages in backwards and continued riding that bike for a decade, and even as the bike accumulated hundreds of hours of use I didn't notice the trashed bearings at any time, only readjusting it perhaps once or twice over the years. By the time I sold that bike the rear Bendix 2-speed hub had it's own issues with multiple cracks in the shell, resulting from all of the fun that I had riding it!

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Old 12-21-2018, 04:24 PM
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WOw i sued to do wheelies like the dude in the picture... long time ago... feel old :P
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Old 12-21-2018, 04:34 PM
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The cups are far harder to pit than the cones. Except in really cheap hubs. Even then, you can polish the cups. Cones are cheap. Lack of grease and bad adjustment will eat them alive.
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Old 12-21-2018, 04:36 PM
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This is going to end badly.
That brings tears to the eyes. That had to be making all kinds of noise and there were some sparks flying inside that hub.
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Old 12-21-2018, 06:40 PM
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I've heard of guys re-polishing the cones. IDK about the cups. IME the cups don't tend to get pitted, but YMMV

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I friend (shop owner) does it all the time. Uses a dremel and polishing compound.
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