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Old 10-22-2017, 12:25 PM
Drmojo Drmojo is offline
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my black rant redux

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR8LJPot5EU

Looks like a great jacket but why not other colors?
rain, murky conditions, ninja jacket
great recipe
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Old 10-22-2017, 06:22 PM
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Have had great luck with the rapha hardshell jacket for the cold wet days in new england. This the only jacket I have and I wear it fall to spring. It is warmer than it looks, and for fall days, I wear a sleeveless baselayer and for the coldest days, a thicker full sleeve wool baselayer. The styling is subtle so I have also used it for some running workouts as well.
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Old 10-22-2017, 08:13 PM
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Norcal

Northern California with much rain in the last year or so-

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That's good to hear. What part of the country do you live in ?
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Old 10-22-2017, 08:18 PM
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that Rapha photo is so soft and smooth

makes me want to hug a teddy bear .

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Have had great luck with the rapha hardshell jacket for the cold wet days in new england. This the only jacket I have and I wear it fall to spring. It is warmer than it looks, and for fall days, I wear a sleeveless baselayer and for the coldest days, a thicker full sleeve wool baselayer. The styling is subtle so I have also used it for some running workouts as well.
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Old 10-22-2017, 08:37 PM
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That jacket has a really nice soft touch, although it is called "Hardshell".

I see that this jacket is no longer in the product line, so I apologize, if you can get it second hand, it is well worth it. This may be why it was marked down from $375 to $125 last year...

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Old 10-22-2017, 09:17 PM
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Northern California with much rain in the last year or so-
Hope you get rain soon !!
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Old 10-23-2017, 09:17 AM
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Anybody have first hand experience with the Rapha Brevet insulated jacket? I know it isn't a rain jacket per se ,but I'm wondering just how well it performs as an all rounder?
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Old 10-23-2017, 09:23 AM
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I recently bought one (insulated Brevet jacket), and while I have had very few opportunities to use it yet, the few times I have worn it, I thought it was terrific. I was warm. It was comfortable, and when the day warmed up, it fit in my jersey pocket - although barely. It would be better if it compacted into a smaller roll, but I'm sure some of it's insulating properties would be lost. You can't have everything.
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Old 10-25-2017, 03:42 PM
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OP here....I have been in touch with Showers Pass and they have been very responsive and have offered a loyalty discount. The Shakedry fabric looks very promising but I really cant live with riding in a black jacket because of visibility concerns.
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Old 10-25-2017, 06:13 PM
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any rain jacket needs to have

under arm zippers to let out steam etc
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Old 10-26-2017, 07:09 AM
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I purchased the Sportful Hot Pack No Rain Ultralight this year, great jacket! Waterproof, breathable, light, very packable, fits in rear jersey pocket with room to spare, visible bright color, on sale at Excel right now, highly recommend.
https://www.excelsports.com/main.asp...ajor=4&minor=4
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Old 10-26-2017, 09:12 AM
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under arm zippers to let out steam etc
And other vents as well. Both "waterproof" and "breathable" exist on opposite scales - the more "waterproof" a fabric is, the less "breathable" it will be. While modern fabrics can combine these two properties to a larger degree than ever before, there are limits. And these limits are generally defeated by the sweat generated in moderate to hard aerobic exercise. Any fabric that is waterproof enough to keep rain out will not be breathable enough to let sweat out. Consequently, the quality of venting in a cycling rain garment is often more important than the quality of the "waterproof/breathable" fabric used.
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Old 10-26-2017, 01:31 PM
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I love my Search & State S1-J jacket.
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Old 10-26-2017, 02:30 PM
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Really can't live with riding in a black jacket because of visibility concerns...

Good on you. The more people think like that, the sooner the industry will get the message.
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Old 10-26-2017, 03:07 PM
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The breath-ability aspect of any rain jacket requires some type power to drive moisture from the inside to the outside across a rain jacket barrier. A garment/jacket could be Gore-Tex, E-Vent, any ePTFE membrane,…….etc. Moisture, perspiration on the inside of a garment will not migrate from an area of lower concentration to an area of higher concentration, all by itself. Interior moisture, interior vapor pressure is the only current force which propels perspiration across a rain jacket barrier to the outside, through a difference in pressure, or a pressure gradient. In order to reach that magic pressure gradient number, the interior of any garment must reach approximately 70% humidity to be effective. Dry and breathable is a marketing fallacy and is not possible with current materials and nature!
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