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Old 10-30-2017, 10:16 AM
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that electro magnetic wheel tech doesn't cause cranks to spin, right?

that would explain why no cranks-a-spinnin'.
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Old 10-30-2017, 01:47 PM
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just look like a hub full of race-worthy bearings to me.
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Old 10-30-2017, 03:29 PM
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Spinnin' wheels
Yea but the front and rear were spinning and they stopped as soon as the riders put the wheels on the ground. I appreciate the tease.

They were running up those hills fast...that was impressive!
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Old 10-30-2017, 03:30 PM
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Special Spanish bearings lubed with bulls blood?

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just look like a hub full of race-worthy bearings to me.
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Old 11-09-2017, 03:02 PM
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Rather than start a new thread...

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-...g-accusations/

Wonder if Sparty's 2010 Ronde and Roubaix bikes are available for inspection?

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Old 11-09-2017, 03:17 PM
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...Wonder if Sparty's 2010 Ronde and Roubaix bikes are available for inspection?

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I anticipate the inevitable, "Cancellara's Roubaix winning bicycle recently stolen from his trophy room/garage/museum ..." headline.
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Old 11-09-2017, 04:22 PM
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Certainly the trophy bikes have had the motor removed and a proper crankset placed in them, no?
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Old 11-09-2017, 04:51 PM
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Rather than start a new thread...

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-...g-accusations/

Wonder if Sparty's 2010 Ronde and Roubaix bikes are available for inspection?

Greg

So Gaimon watched it on tv, and declares " that f****r probably had a motor". Won't Gaimon just please go away. It feels like he's written more books than Protour races ridden.
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Old 11-09-2017, 05:13 PM
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^this.

Also, this entire discussion (anywhere, not just this particular thread) makes me think of the movie 23. You can find anything you look hard enough for - whether it's real or not.

It's crazy how many people ride bikes and still have no understanding of momentum/inertia
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Old 11-09-2017, 05:17 PM
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So Gaimon watched it on tv, and declares " that f****r probably had a motor". Won't Gaimon just please go away. It feels like he's written more books than Protour races ridden.
The reason he didn't ride more protour races and is writing books instead is because of his stance on doping. He couldn't be competitive and be clean, so he stopped racing rather than stoop to cheating. Personally, I think his books are unique perspective of the pro-cyclist life with a lot of the BS cut out. He's pissed he couldn't keep his job with out having to cheat and I think that's pretty reasonable. Him being vocal about his experience and continuing to ask for answers rather than tossing his hands in the air and saying "what are you going to do" helps humanize the impact of doping/cheating.
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Old 11-09-2017, 06:17 PM
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The reason he didn't ride more protour races and is writing books instead is because of his stance on doping. He couldn't be competitive and be clean, so he stopped racing rather than stoop to cheating. Personally, I think his books are unique perspective of the pro-cyclist life with a lot of the BS cut out. He's pissed he couldn't keep his job with out having to cheat and I think that's pretty reasonable. Him being vocal about his experience and continuing to ask for answers rather than tossing his hands in the air and saying "what are you going to do" helps humanize the impact of doping/cheating.


Bwahahaha! Man needs to know his limitations. Gaimon is a climber, not a rouleur like Cancellara or Boonen. At best he would be a domestic. Maybe he needs to eat more cookies?


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Old 11-09-2017, 07:05 PM
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The reason he didn't ride more protour races and is writing books instead is because of his stance on doping. He couldn't be competitive and be clean, so he stopped racing rather than stoop to cheating. Personally, I think his books are unique perspective of the pro-cyclist life with a lot of the BS cut out. He's pissed he couldn't keep his job with out having to cheat and I think that's pretty reasonable. Him being vocal about his experience and continuing to ask for answers rather than tossing his hands in the air and saying "what are you going to do" helps humanize the impact of doping/cheating.
He didn't ride more Pro Tour races because he wasn't good enough. Now is a bitter ex-pro spreading his own BS like a monkey flinging its feces. It is not based on inside information or even hearsay. No, it is wild accusations based on viewing old Youtube clips. He does not have any more information than the nutters over at Cycling News' forum. What will he put in his next book? Conspiracy theories based on his analysis of the Zabruder film? Maybe he can help O.J. during his pursuit of the real killers.
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Old 11-09-2017, 07:06 PM
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Bwahahaha! Man needs to know his limitations. Gaimon is a climber, not a rouleur like Cancellara or Boonen. At best he would be a domestic. Maybe he needs to eat more cookies?


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Gaimon wasn't in the race the day in question nor is he trying to suggest that if he was, he got robbed a victory. His first and only Roubaix was 2016 and even then it was a last minute addition due to injuries and by his own admission, it wasn't a race for him. He was told to he needed to fill in, so he did, and did well. He made it into a dangerous early break which is super hard at Roubaix. Unfortunately it had a bit too much horsepower to be given a leash and it was reeled in, then he got caught up behind and in crashes. Not a terrible performance for his first go, and as a climber.

The point is not that he personally feels robbed of that win, it's that the culture of doping and cheating creates an environment where the riders that are trying to do it clean struggle to even hang on. It's part of what created the pressure for many riders to dope in the first place. Phil left the game rather than cheat. His book and the worst retirement ever project calls attention to the issues that have plagued, and will continue to be pervasive in Cycling. Phil feels as bad for all the other guys that were working their buts off just to get robbed of results, or lose contracts, because the other guys around them were on juice.

Personally, I think his experience in the pro-peloton gives him the right to call BS if he so chooses. It helps keep the discussion alive. Cycling is far from reformed and we shouldn't be complacent.
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Old 11-09-2017, 07:13 PM
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He didn't ride more Pro Tour races because he wasn't good enough. Now is a bitter ex-pro spreading his own BS like a monkey flinging its feces. It is not based on inside information or even hearsay. No, it is wild accusations based on viewing old Youtube clips. He does not have any more information than the nutters over at Cycling News' forum. What will he put in his next book? Conspiracy theories based on his analysis of the Zabruder film? Maybe he can help O.J. during his pursuit of the real killers.
Wasn't good enough for who? Wasn't good enough to keep up with the dopers? Yep, absolutely right, he wasn't good enough to hang in a field full of juiced up leaders and super domestiques.

To be frank, we don't know what he has or has not seen during his time in the peloton. Also he wasn't the one who put Fabians move into question - he's recovering what has been claimed and implicated by others.

People don't want to think that their cycling idols were cheaters. We need to get over it. Chances are, anyone who was at the tip of the spear over the last 15 years had some questionable help getting there. Phil is one rider that isn't afraid to sling some feeces over it and keep the conversation going. Sticking our heads in the sand and hoping it will get better wont fix anything.

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Old 11-10-2017, 06:52 AM
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He didn't ride more Pro Tour races because he wasn't good enough. Now is a bitter ex-pro spreading his own BS like a monkey flinging its feces. It is not based on inside information or even hearsay. No, it is wild accusations based on viewing old Youtube clips. He does not have any more information than the nutters over at Cycling News' forum. What will he put in his next book? Conspiracy theories based on his analysis of the Zabruder film? Maybe he can help O.J. during his pursuit of the real killers.
You can say that twice..CN forum is the wacky rec.bicycles.tech, version 2.0..nutters included.
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