Conti Gator Hardshell Alternative?

[charliedid]

Nothing better in that category IMO just buy a new pair.

Maybe a Ruffy Tuffy.

[robt57]

Hutchinson Override Tubeless if you can live without the tanwall. When you pump them up the edge require quit the lean to engage. But if you wander off for prolonged non pave, lower the pressure as low as you want pretty much, and the edges get to work on softer surfaces. Best in class for best of both surfaces for me.

For all pavement, I run Jack Browns 33s, Soma Supple Vitesse 38s with latex tubes. Plan to try the GK Slicks at some point based on the raves.

FWIW, I choose the EX on the Somas, figured they'd be like the SL casing option soon enough with wear, almost.

And if you want some real glide, the 40mm Maxxis Re-fuse I liked for when I was not trying to spin them fast for long rides. Lottsa holes, all sealed in winter shoulders use. They are big fat, and a bit porky for my 2 cents.

Gators came off fast for me, flat more than All Seasons and the feel of any hard case tire to me, not an ingredient for enthusiastic desire to ride, life to short.

[jpw]

Originally Posted by charliedid

Nothing better in that category IMO just buy a new pair.

Maybe a Ruffy Tuffy.

You mean another pair of CGH? I would, but I want more volume, and they top out at 32, and that's a nominal 32. They inflate to 30.5. Letter to Continental.

[jpw]

Originally Posted by avalonracing

If you are looking for a similar ride quality to a Gatorskin Hardshell I would recommend a wooden wagon wheel with a steel belt.

Yes, they're a compromise. I've had only two punctures in the last three years though. One was a two inch nail (nothing stops those), and a piece of glass shaped like a shark's tooth.

[jpw]

Originally Posted by edward12

This may seem a little odd, but I’ve had really good experiences with the Rivendell Jack Brown’s (blue label), I’m a pretty big guy and they roll great on any surface (including gravel). They feel relatively supple, too. No punctures as of yet (after several hundred miles). If you can get past the gimmicky checkerboard tread patter, these might be a good option.


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Are they true to nominal sizing in your experience? 33.333 is a great number, but if came out at 33.332 it wouldn't be big enough fr my needs. I'm ideally looking for something a tad bigger for extra volume and lower pressure riding. The tread pattern 'looks' nice, but I'm not sure it would provide me with the grip I need for the variable terrain I'm rolling over.

Panaracer seems to be everywhere.

[jpw]

Originally Posted by robt57

Hutchinson Override Tubeless if you can live without the tanwall. When you pump them up the edge require quit the lean to engage. But if you wander off for prolonged non pave, lower the pressure as low as you want pretty much, and the edges get to work on softer surfaces. Best in class for best of both surfaces for me.

For all pavement, I run Jack Browns 33s, Soma Supple Vitesse 38s with latex tubes. Plan to try the GK Slicks at some point based on the raves.

FWIW, I choose the EX on the Somas, figured they'd be like the SL casing option soon enough with wear, almost.

And if you want some real glide, the 40mm Maxxis Re-fuse I liked for when I was not trying to spin them fast for long rides. Lottsa holes, all sealed in winter shoulders use. They are big fat, and a bit porky for my 2 cents.

Gators came off fast for me, flat more than All Seasons and the feel of any hard case tire to me, not an ingredient for enthusiastic desire to ride, life to short.

Gators are an acquired taste. I have none LOL.

https://www.hutchinsontires.com/en/g...-bike-standard

In the bead selection section what is 'FB' and 'WB'? F, W? Does the tread tend to capture 'peas'?

40mm would be too big for my clearance.

[sg8357]

Pirelli Cinturato Velo TLR, tubeless but is rated higher than Gator Hard Shell,
20 points vs. 18 points.

per Bicycle Rolling Resistance

[Toddtwenty2]

Schwalbe Marathon Plus's ride like a brick, but the Marathon Supremes are quite nice. They have more flat protection than something like compass due to a puncture protection layer, but are still very light with supple sidewalls.

Originally Posted by jpw

I've used Marathons. Very good protection, but a bit heavy. Thanks.

[charliedid]

Originally Posted by jpw

You mean another pair of CGH? I would, but I want more volume, and they top out at 32, and that's a nominal 32. They inflate to 30.5. Letter to Continental.

Ah nevermind I'm sorry. I did not read close enough...

Gravel King in that case.

[jpw]

Originally Posted by charliedid

Ah nevermind I'm sorry. I did not read close enough...

Gravel King in that case.

[Robot870]

Originally Posted by avalonracing

If you are looking for a similar ride quality to a Gatorskin Hardshell I would recommend a wooden wagon wheel with a steel belt.

Ha! I tried those things and they made my life miserable - Talk about horrible!

[jpw]

Originally Posted by Robot870

Ha! I tried those things and they made my life miserable - Talk about horrible!

They're not that bad

[robt57]

Originally Posted by jpw

https://www.hutchinsontires.com/en/g...-bike-standard

In the bead selection section what is 'FB' and 'WB'? F, W? Does the tread tend to capture 'peas'?

Folding and Wire I'd assume. Not had them hold any stone, chips etc. I have run them more as extreme winter tire at higher pressures. And a few times let lots of air out for some woods play. I am happy with them.

I am running the 35mm tubeless hardskin.

[azrider]

Originally Posted by avalonracing

If you are looking for a similar ride quality to a Gatorskin Hardshell I would recommend a wooden wagon wheel with a steel belt.

Originally Posted by jpw

They're not that bad

Dude for real........Gator's are a little rough, but man I'll take a little rougher ride over higher susceptibility to punctures any day

[robt57]

Wagon wheel? Maybe @ 120 PSI, I know folks that still think that is preferred, power to them.

I do get a kick of how extreme analogies get so out there though.

Frankly even with latex tubes I don't find the GranPrix4/5 are the nicest riding either. All seasons next, then gators then hard shin gators. Now my Vit paves with latex ride notably 'nice', but cut easily and last terrible, as in don't last.

I've ridden test rides on 23mm specialized Armadillo once, ONCE! Eeks. Felt like solid and not pneumatic to me. And some Schwalbes [forget the ones] I've heard feel wonderfully solid too... so I've read/heard.