anyone tried Pirelli P-Zero newest tires?

[eddief]

compare to Conti 5000?

[Mark McM]

Originally Posted by eddief

compare to Conti 5000?

You'll probably get a variety of answers, considering there are 6 versions of P-Zeros and(Race TLR, Race TLR SL, Velo Tub, Velo, Velo TT, Velo 4s), and 2 versions of GP 5000 (standard and TL). Maybe narrow it down?

[Velocipede]

I've ridden the Velo and Velo 4s. Both excellent. Smooth, corner well. The wear/life of them, mine, above average. But I also rotate mine constantly. So I get a lot of life out of mine.

[eddief]

and wide...and skin walls and durable...like the Conti's.

[Velocipede]

Originally Posted by eddief

and wide...and skin walls and durable...like the Conti's.

Mine were black wall and 23's. I know Charles at PEZ put a ton of miles on his, his were 28's but again, black walls. They're a pretty durable tire. Never had a flat with mine. Don't think Charles did either.

[chicagorider]

I currently have GP5000 on and have just purchased Pirelli Zero Velo (ironically as a winter tire)... Will switch over soon-ish and report back!

[AngryScientist]

Good tires.

Have used the regular Pzero and also the 4S. IMO, the 4S is the new go-to rain tire. excellent wet road grip and handling.

Side note: I also have a couple rides on Goodyear's new bicycle tires - nowhere near as good as the Pirelli.

[RoosterCogset]

The 4S version seems like a nice alternative to Corsa Controls, offering similar speed and puncture protection, but saving about 90 grams on a pair. Wish they offered a tan sidewall version though.

[eddief]

seems Pirelli is 127 tpi and Conti is 300 tpi. Would that not make a significant difference in comfort???

I like the look of this Pirelli:

https://www.excelsports.com/main.asp...hoCNRcQAvD_BwE

[weiwentg]

Originally Posted by eddief

seems Pirelli is 127 tpi and Conti is 300 tpi. Would that not make a significant difference in comfort???

I like the look of this Pirelli:

https://www.excelsports.com/main.asp...hoCNRcQAvD_BwE

TPI alone isn't the be-all and end-all of a tire, but I think the GP 5000 is claimed to be 330 TPI. Each individual ply is 110 TPI. The GP 5000 has 3 plies. So, 3 * 110 = '330 TPI'.

Bicyclerollingresistance does have the top two 2020 Pirelli PZeros (the TT and Velo Race TLR SL) basically on par with the GP 5k in terms of rolling resistance. Aerocoach doesn't quite agree; they put the 23mm PZero TT ahead of a 25mm GP 5k, and the 26mm Velo TLR SL behind the GP 5k. (Note: I think that Aerocoach is testing the 2020 batch of Pirellis here, but they do omit the 'race' from the names in their chart, and that nomenclature could mean that they're 2017 tires. I don't think so, though.)

[eddief]

Pirelli PZero Velo Road Tire.

Does not say TLR or TT.

Maybe they'd sell more tires if the model designations were clear and consistent. Or I could be missing something. Happens about once a day.

Originally Posted by weiwentg

TPI alone isn't the be-all and end-all of a tire, but I think the GP 5000 is claimed to be 330 TPI. Each individual ply is 110 TPI. The GP 5000 has 3 plies. So, 3 * 110 = '330 TPI'.

Bicyclerollingresistance does have the top two 2020 Pirelli PZeros (the TT and Velo Race TLR SL) basically on par with the GP 5k in terms of rolling resistance. Aerocoach doesn't quite agree; they put the 23mm PZero TT ahead of a 25mm GP 5k, and the 26mm Velo TLR SL behind the GP 5k. (Note: I think that Aerocoach is testing the 2020 batch of Pirellis here, but they do omit the 'race' from the names in their chart, and that nomenclature could mean that they're 2017 tires. I don't think so, though.)

[monarchguy]

Been riding both since August; I think the conti has the edge by a hair. Don't think you could go wrong by buying a pair and wearing them out, they're pretty good.

-- Dan

[IJWS]

Have Velo's, 28mm, they are smooth and grippy--not as squishy/supple feeling as Vittoria Corsa's which is a plus for me. New fave tire.

[Blown Reek]

As far as tubeless tires go, they're probably the best for flat protection. However, when compared with something like the Schwalbe, Vittoria, or Continential, there's much more rotational weight.

[djg21]

Originally Posted by eddief

compare to Conti 5000?

The local shop that sponsors my club ditched Conti because they are available on the internet at far below what the shop would have to sell them for. It picked up Pirelli and everyone who switched seems to really like them. I haven’t because Conti used to sponsor my race team 25 years ago and I’m still appreciative. I really like the GP 5000 TL tires. I’ve ridden them in 25c and now I’m using 28c. They have proven very durable despite what some here have said. I live in Battenkill country and consider pavement to be optional. I’m sure the Pirellis are nice too.