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I'm mad that he's still rich. Could care a crap about the debate if he truly won those tours because everyone else was doping. Would rather see him have to work a regular job like the rest of us.
And it's friggin' kaiser jan who has to go off the rails instead of Lance. There is no justice!!! |
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"Lance says wouldn't change thing"..........DUH.....if he hadn't doped he'd be a has-been. And right on about the "he's still this and he's still that"........just let it go already and enjoy your day........HE SURE AS HELL IS |
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Infamy lasts longer than fame.... from the Informant.. great movie btw.
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And, of course, I could extropolate that type of mentality occurring in all kinds of areas nowadays where it doesn't look any more glamorous, but I digress....
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Good on Armstrong for being unapologetic about it. It sure beats others getting caught then going on an apology tour where they kowtow to the normies and pretend to be sorry for doping. |
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Lance simply played the game...
he's a bit of a douche, but I don't spend any energy hating on him. |
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Like pro ball players and myriad Olympic gold medal winning athletes whose sports don't offer a career; you are not a has-been. You just take the talent, resolve and energy you once had to find a new direction. Lance will probably always have limited options. Millions don't like him, sponsors are afraid to use him and his only admirers are those of us in this dinky sport who can appreciate what he did on the bike. But lots us in the sport have lost respect for him due to the way he treated people while trying to keep his lies intact and for his lack of remorse. He probably won't die broke, but I wonder if he will die fulfilled? |
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I hate to break it to you, my dude, but Jan is also rich. He doesn't have a regular job. And it may totally shock you to learn this, but he doped. The same people who hate on Lance for doping are the same people who fall all over themselves to praise Merckx and Cipollini and Hinault and Kelly and Coppi and Pantani and... |
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But he won. That was his job, that's all most American people care about, the winning. Cyclists and even non-fans will see those blank spaces in the winners lists and know the name Lance Armstrong.
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Actually, not every GC contender was. In the post Festina years a few were trying to go clean (e.g. Christophe Bassons) and got steam-rolled by Lance and Postal, on and off the bike. The majority of the peloton was probably doped to a degree, but fears of testing kept it to a lesser degree than in '98. Postal just was more daring in their "preparations".
The whole "level playing field" argument for doping is a joke anyway. Some teams and riders were more sophisticated than others. Some riders responded to doping protocols better than others, achieving larger gains in performance. Some doctors (e.g. Ferrari) were very scientific about their procedures and timelines and others were almost comically inept (e.g. Fuentes). In the years after Festina, when you could no longer mainline EPO because of better testing, micro-dosing routines and transfusions were much more complex to maintain while remaining undetected. I suspect it's even more so today, although it obviously continues to a degree. Read Tyler Hamilton's book (among countless others) for further information. And for the record, I believe LeMond was clean. Prior to blood doping entering the sport and the dramatic shift that EPO created, it was easier to win clean. EPO made what the previous dopers did seem almost "quaint". Most of the old concoctions probably did more harm than good in the long run.
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Testicular cancer is somewhat rare unless you mess with androgenic agents well known in the NFL also |
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