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I think so, but people seem much less tolerant of error with autonomous vehicles than human-operated. It's more akin to planes, where the public expects perfect safety.
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Hopefully that same battery technology will filter to solar/wind and storage for when the wind doesn't blow at night..plus November 2020.. The 'future' is definitely electric power, generated with something besides crushed and preserved 'dino' guts..
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imho what will make electric cars a game changer is when they develop a battery that can drive the car 400 miles and then be recharged in about 1/2 an hour. hell I'll buy one of those cars, if for no other reason than to just stick it to big oil. I do have to think that technology is coming soon. I hope!! wait and for everyday use have a recharging dock that you can just drive over in your garage and have start recharging. that would be my wish list. if that were met I would buy an electric car in a heartbeat. and I think millions of others would do the same. so let's hope we get to that point very soon.
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As Old Potato notes, despite its many detrimental impacts, dinosaur based fuel still has a tremendous amount of energy per unit volume/weight. So, without a price on carbon emissions (ie. carbon tax), that chemistry challenge is significant, to say the least. Quote:
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that is exactly what they said that about Steve Jobs twenty years ago! I actually wonder if Steve were alive today if Apple would not have bought Tesla or did some kind of partnership? jobs and musk seem to be visionaries and nobody likes them until their vision comes to pass. and then everybody is on board. just the nature of human beings. just saying.
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Instead, Musk is making huge assumptions and suppositions about technology that doesn't exist yet (and often over-reaching in his predictions). Does anyone really need and want a HyperLoop? While Apple sold new uses for today's technology, Musk is selling dreams of future technologies. |
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Last month Tesla began rolling out V3 superchargers that will provide up to 1000mi in an hour of charging. I’ve seen a peak of about 400mi in my experience. Usually it averages about 250 miles in an hour. Last edited by mistermo; 04-25-2019 at 11:07 AM. |
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If Steve Jobs didn't actually invent new technology, was he still important? In some ways, he was more important than the inventors. Here's an example: Pop quiz - Who invented the electric light bulb? If you said Thomas Edison, you'd be wrong. The electric light bulb was actually invented by Charles Swann. But the electric light bulb invention languished for years with no practical way to use it, before Thomas Edison had the vision to assemble all the pieces of existing technology to develop a practical system to deliver electric lighting to the masses. Similarly, Jobs was the key individual to develop the music downloading/streaming industry. The MP3 player already existed before the iPod, the internet already existed, file download systems already existed, online retailing already existed, etc. But there was no easy way to get new music onto your MP3 player, so the online music download market just didn't exist - at least not until Jobs put together all the pieces. |
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They seem to have done a great job with the new chip. A chip for autonomous driving has to have some features, such as redundancy and built in cryptographic functions to keep hackers out, that chips from the chip companies may not have. And a key feature of Tesla's hardware/software combination it that it provides a way to constantly feed images back from the "fleet" of Tesla's out on the road that will maintain a cycle of continuous improvement for the self-driving software. And the software is designed to take advantage of that since it uses machine learning and annotated images from real life driving as a basis for improvements. In other words it will continue getting better. I suspect that chip and software costs are a small fraction of what it takes to run a manufacturing plant for 5000 cars a month. |
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Musk is like Tesla (the man)--wild man innovation, but not so good on the implementation (although the edge clearly goes to Tesla on basic science, I think). Tesla got eaten alive by Edison, which is why we have AC current as well as incandescent light bulbs... Steve Jobs--a different kind of visionary. There's the famous quote of Henry Ford that Jobs was fond of quoting; "If you asked Americans what they wanted, they would have said a better horse." Jobs had that same ability to see what people wanted before they knew they wanted it--but I think Musk does try to do the "visionary" thing a little too hard. My lovely wife came home with a report from a local Sierra Club group--a bunch of committed activist suburban women, who are all about saving the environment--and not one of them drives an electric car, and not one gave it serious consideration even though some have recently purchased a new car. Why?--simple. They want the new car to be like the old car--roomy, 4 wheel drive, preferably an SUV/Crossover style--because that is what works for their current lives--kids/sports/hauling crap/vacations/large pets--the usual list. These are the decision makers for their families (and the women are that for a lot of other families) about vehicles--and they are NOT interested in driverless, electric, zoomy, future-is-now vehicles. Now take the Steve Jobs/Henry Ford line--they want a better horse. And I have yet to see a compelling proposition from any of the electric car makers to convince them that what they really want is the paradigm shift like going from a horse and buggy to the 'new, new transportation unit.' It will happen, but the value proposition is not there yet. |
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The main difference between Jobs and Musk is Jobs did it all with equity capital, corporate debt and cash, and Musk did it all with equity capital, corporate debt and a MASSIVE BOATLOAD of taxpayer cash.
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