Enve has something new coming April 11th

[jimoots]

Can I put $10 on hooks?

[morrisond]

Has anyone seen a Geo chart yet? Any idea of how much more Stack?

[AngryScientist]

Originally Posted by Clean39T

New tires out today too..

I did a quick search and didnt turn up anything on this, any further details?

[nmrt]

I might be wrong but is it this?
https://enve.com/products/ses-raceday-tire

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

I did a quick search and didnt turn up anything on this, any further details?

[morrisond]

AC did an OOPS - here it is https://abovecategory.com/products/e...795b91b4&_ss=r

[Louis]

Originally Posted by morrisond

AC did an OOPS - here it is https://abovecategory.com/products/e...795b91b4&_ss=r

The pictures really could have done a better job of showing the bike. I wanted to see it, but the glare and the shadows made it tough.

Edit: and in the one last picture where you can see it, it's a bit of a "meh."

[nmrt]

Enve has done an amazing job with the geometry of the Melee, Mog, and Fray. So many different fork rakes -- the Melee has 5 rakes in different sizes!

However, to my eyes, all the Enve bikes are nothing to look at. They look okay. Not something I hate but not something I love either.

Originally Posted by Louis

The pictures really could have done a better job of showing the bike. I wanted to see it, but the glare and the shadows made it tough.

Edit: and in the one last picture where you can see it, it's a bit of a "meh."

[snguyen268]

Originally Posted by morrisond

AC did an OOPS - here it is https://abovecategory.com/products/e...795b91b4&_ss=r

Enve did an oops themselves as well: https://enve.com/collections/fray

[C40_guy]

Originally Posted by EB

Meanwhile "endurance" road bikes are coming from the other direction, and shipping with 40mm of clearance...

I was rotating tires over the weekend and learned that my '96 unicorn Master CX and my '03 Hot Tubes both will take 40mm tires. I had never ridden anything larger than 32s on them, but of course the last time I put tires on those bikes I was still using Clement Criterium Seta as the gold standard for tire width.

So are these vintage cyclocross bikes now officially "endurance" road bikes?

[robt57]

Chicken egg, no? In this case the Allroad came first, the bigger clearance gravel after, no?

2015 Carl Strong made me an all road, except I asked for better clearance. So it fits a 2.1x650b or probably a 42x700. I've gone max 40x700. This is a shortcoming VS gravel bike that fit 44+. But this was 9 years ago too.

So isn't gravel an allroad [initially] that got more clearance?

Originally Posted by EB

A cantilever brake?

I find the current trend of reducing tire clearance by 5mm to 7mm on gravel bikes and calling them "all-road" bikes amusing. We're basically back to the same thing that they called a gravel bike in 2016. Meanwhile "endurance" road bikes are coming from the other direction, and shipping with 40mm of clearance, and at least one team is riding Factor gravel bikes at Paris-Roubaix (albeit setup with 28mm tires).

[Kyle h]

https://abovecategory.com/products/e...795b91b4&_ss=r

[sparky33]

Originally Posted by Kyle h

https://abovecategory.com/products/e...795b91b4&_ss=r

They lost me at integrated cables and the mandatory mustache.

Where is the geometry chart?

[fried bake]

Hmmm, so downtube storage is now a key differentiator? I see it as a plus, but by no means anything other than a nice addition and certainly not a factor in any future bike purchase. I am not the audience for this, but if I were then that Vitus Venon with carbon wheels currently listed for $3K on eBay would be in my home right now.


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[benb]

Probably a key differentiator for the riders who think having a saddle bag is akin to getting caught naked in public.

That has always been a pretty firm dividing line between those who just throw stuff in a saddle bag and the jersey pocket stuffers. If you're a jersey pocket stuffer downtube storage is probably a revelation.

I've always been a new set of tools + gear for each bike and put it in a saddle bag person. I don't want all that stuff in my pockets and I don't want to forget it and bring the wrong thing. I seem to end up with my pockets full of clothes anyway with the weather constantly goes bananas here.

[Likes2ridefar]

I like the DT storage because it then allows for a clean mounting position of the garmin varia on the saddle rails without losing a water bottle for my setup.

I use a half bottle with tools in my seat tube water bottle cage and for longer rides needing two bottles put the tools in my pocket or use a bag for really long rides…