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Dedacciai EOM 16.5?
Has anyone here owned a frame built with Dedacciai EOM 16.5, in larger size, road frame, rim brake, carbon fork?
How would you characterize the ride, other impressions? Was it stiff or forgiving? Robust or "fragile"? It seems described as fragile in some vague reports, and yet Zullo, Pinarello, Pegoretti, Casati, Olmo, Billato/Fondriest, etc all seem to have used it a lot. What would be the comparative tubeset in Columbus? |
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Closest would be something like True Temper S3 no?
Superlight steel and all that. |
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I think my frame is made from this tubing and I've used both a carbon fork and, currently, a steel fork with it. It's slightly oversize and it's a great ride. I'm around 75kg and it's never felt fragile or "flimsy" and the ride is really comfy. Sorry if that's not all that helpful with your questions.
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I do not know. I have never ridden a True Temper S3, which is why I asked for a comparison with Columbus tubing hopefully from someone who actually ridden the EOM 16.5. I have read that S3 is excellent, but I just have no basis to compare.
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I had read some comments stating that the EOM 16.5 is fairly easily dented, but all those top thin wall steels are if abused, so I have no idea if the EOM was really any more fragile or not. Since you like the EOM, what size is your frame +/-? How long ago was it built, that is your experience on it is long-standing? |
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I was looking at the Dedacciai Zero 25 awhile back I believe is Deda 12.5
Like you I searched & saw a few articles EOM vs Zero EOM vs S3 &Ultra Foco EOM vs Spirit EOM vs 853 Zero vs Spirit |
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I thought there would be more people with EOM frames and experience here for some reason. |
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I have also not really had luck finding out about the Zero 25 I think they are more popular in Europe as I have seen riding pics on IG all Euro based for the Zero25 frame. |
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Of course, YMMV! Good Luck! Last edited by bfd; 06-16-2020 at 04:38 PM. |
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Fondriest X Status
I have a Fondriest X Status that is constructed from EOM 16.50. I have had this particular bike longer than any other. It is that good. Not sure it's all the material but it certainly is a wonderful steel. Mine also has the carbon seatstays and a carbon fork. It is a 58 and I find it easily as stiff as my Merckx made from Columbus Zona. I am not a big guy, 160lb and not a masher so I can't speak to it being a sprinters delight, but it is very nice on a century ride. I would consider it a plus if is a frame that fits you. And if you get one and don't like it and it is 58ish let me know
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I have had both an S3 bike and EOM 16.5
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One S3 bike was a Kelly, and it had a nice smooth feel to it, and the type of low trail handling I liked, but I sold it because aesthetically I prefer a more level top tube and the Kelly was a very aggressively sloping TT design. I believe the Waterford R33 was also S3, but am not 100% on that--but it was a great bike. Both S3 bikes felt smoother to me than the EOM 16.5. I sold the r33 to try carbon in circa 2007-8 if memory serves. Of the light weight steel I've had over the years I think my fav ride was an Ellis I got here or across the hall (no idea on the tubing), 2008 SV road prototype (made by Sacha), then the Waterford R33, then IF XCR, then Pegoretti Responsorium, then Pegoretti Marcelo, then IF 953, then the Kelly S3, and then Pinarello EOM 16.5. As for comparisons I've had some older steel, (not lightweight) such as my (collecting dust) '93 serotta coors light, 90's colnago masterlight, colnago olympic, ciocc, and a moser. I also had a Kirk JKS, but am not sure that is considered lightweight, but it was a really smooth ride. I now have a Kirk JKS 10th anniversary I got days before my cervical radiculopathy hit, which I've sadly never built up to ride. I suppose hope springs eternal, so I still have it too. Oh, another "light" steel i had was a bianchi boron, but it was quite flexy--not recommended. I tried a lot of bikes over the years, including some top carbon from Serotta (meivici), Time, Look, Colnago, Pinarello, Calfee, Crumpton. The only two I liked as much as the steel bikes were the Meivici and the Crumpton. Good luck! |
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+1. Very helpful. |
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Yes, I believe Waterford use True Temper primarily, including S3, maybe Reynolds as well, but not Italian steel afaik. Kelly and Waterford, both super. Apparently earlier Pegoretti Marcelos utilized EOM 16.5, before the switch to Spirit; do you know which tubing yourMarcelo utilized? Pinarello and many other top Italian brands seem to have used EOM 16.5 as well, for years. I understand the carbon seatstays were an additional option Dedacciai provided to builders who wanted it, just as Columbus did with their carbon rear "kit". What size was the Pinarello EOM 16.5 that you found flexible compared to TT-S3 and others, for what rider weight +/-? Too bad it landed at the bottom of a fairly long list. |
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