A little bird told me. Campag content..subcompact

[Peter B]

beauty...eye...beholder.

form.

function.

[mcteague]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

They are ‘moving away from that ‘ethos’? Yee gads, another other Latin ya want to throw in there. You forgot, InMyHumbleOpinion...it’s a shame sram and shimano biggest end stuff looks like plastic 4000 series stuff—>IMHO.

Come on Tater! Do you really not see that the newer hardware, from brake calipers to cranks and RDs, have lost that Italian style they used to have? I have Campy on both my road bikes and have a couple of Campagnolo logo t-shirts, no tats , so I am no hater. Just a disappointed fan. Adding IMO to a post like this seems completely redundant.

Tim

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by mcteague

Come on Tater! Do you really not see that the newer hardware, from brake calipers to cranks and RDs, have lost that Italian style they used to have? I have Campy on both my road bikes and have a couple of Campagnolo logo t-shirts, no tats , so I am no hater. Just a disappointed fan.

Tim

Nope, not any more than the most modern rear suspension on a Ducati or the treatment of the latest Ferrari or the beautiful Guilia....bello, semplicemente bello!!!

“IMO” cuz it IS your opinion, not something etched in stone and brought down from the mountain top...c’mon!!

[nickl]

Originally Posted by Peter B

beauty...eye...beholder.

form.

function.

I couldn’t agree more, speaking as someone with an engineering degree and over 45 years experience in design, product development and manufacturing.

[charliedid]

Originally Posted by steveandbarb1

Bet if a poll was done, it is us old farts, baby boomers, whatever you want to call us, that long for the campy of old functioning like a new swiss watch.

I'm a baby boomer and I've never longed for old stuff.

[charliedid]

Originally Posted by R3awak3n

agreed but.... that RD is aweful looking, worst than shimano and certainly sram... that said, I will probably have one at some point and it will probably grow on me (like the new crank has) and if it works great that is #1 thing for me

Your love of those cranks is legendary ;-)

[Burnette]

Originally Posted by mcteague

Come on Tater! Do you really not see that the newer hardware, from brake calipers to cranks and RDs, have lost that Italian style they used to have? I have Campy on both my road bikes and have a couple of Campagnolo logo t-shirts, no tats , so I am no hater. Just a disappointed fan. Adding IMO to a post like this seems completely redundant.

Tim

Well, yeah, you're right, the Campy stuff does look like crap much like the rest, but in all of the component maker's defense it's much harder to impart style on what is essentially black plastic and carbon pieces. It's like trying to make pretty garage door openers at this point, Ha!

At least Campag is offering something that people were looking for.

[robertbb]

Here you go all:

Crankset - looks to be different from Record crank which is a departure from the norm. My guess on those visible bolt holes were for a 1x option, but looks like it may be sub-compact (or both).
RD - looks like some alloy in there, compared to R/SR...

[charliedid]

Originally Posted by robertbb

Here you go all:

Crankset - looks to be different from Record crank which is a departure from the norm. My guess on those visible bolt holes were for a 1x option, but looks like it may be sub-compact (or both).
RD - looks like some alloy in there, compared to R/SR...

I'd ride that.

[Burnette]

Originally Posted by robertbb

Here you go all:

Crankset - looks to be different from Record crank which is a departure from the norm. My guess on those visible bolt holes were for a 1x option, but looks like it may be sub-compact (or both).
RD - looks like some alloy in there, compared to R/SR...

That pic reminds of that commercial "cut the cable". Aesthetically, wireless would clean that up.

[colker]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

Think your dates are off a little. MTB stuff, late 80s, certainly a mess..1992/3..ERGO and it 'seemed' Campagnolo 'found' it's way and realized that going toe to toe with Suntour/shimano MTB wasn't in the cards.

I know it means not a lot BUT...9s? 10s? 11s? and now 12s...hmmmm seems the 'S' group makers followed..and have been since 1997...

Lessee shimano's 12s road group?..and a sram 12s group with something other than a rear hub that's not compatible with 11s AND 12s..

Oh yes..mechanical 12s? Yes, I know electronic is a 'game changer',,,but mechanical 12s from anybody? Except Campagnolo??

I alternate between electronics and mechanical equipment in my work. Mechanical is way more sought after than electronics right now. I won´t spend my money on electronic drivetrains. I don´t care if electronics look ace or even shift better: i will put my money in mechanical parts right now.

[Duende]

Originally Posted by fignon's barber

They do make Boras 35 and 50 in disc:


https://www.campagnolo.com/US/en/Whe..._35_disc_brake

I know, but the width is for 28mm tires... not gravel tire widths. People are running larger tires no doubt, but it would be nice to have something wider rim wise.

[Lionel]

While you guys debate the esthetics my SR EPS 12 is on the way.

[R3awak3n]

Originally Posted by charliedid

I'd ride that.

+1

I think looks pretty good... Better than record and super record too

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by Lionel

While you guys debate the esthetics my SR EPS 12 is on the way.

Huzzah!! Please chime in, anybody that has shimano Di2 in 12s or mechanical sram 12s on the way..along with those groups that have a sub compact crank...
Pix please or "IT DOESN'T EXIST'''as they say in interweb land...

SR/Record-12s..elec and mech, rim and disc
Chorus 12s-mech, rim and disc
Still 11s, elec and mech, rim and disc

BUT Campagnolo!! "Pathetic", "On the ropes", "unless they do OE like shimano they are DOOMED"..cue the serious music please......oh never mind...