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Old 12-30-2018, 02:11 PM
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Just came across your bike from the "2018 Top 10" post in General. Gotta say that I love the baby blue fork and the contrast it creates. Definitely reinforces my decision to use a similar scheme on my next Ti build, though I'll probably use more a turquoise color (e.g. Yeti's turquoise color).
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Old 12-30-2018, 02:25 PM
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Needs a 44mm HT.
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Old 12-30-2018, 02:32 PM
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Nice way to ring in the new year! Congrats and looking forward to some ride reports and more pics.
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Old 12-30-2018, 02:37 PM
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Old 12-30-2018, 04:26 PM
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Needs a 44mm HT.
Yeah, asthetically it could be pleasing, but not sure it needs the extra 30-50 grams between the headtube and fork. There is a downside to 44mm headtubes.

Mike and I debated this as I have two bikes from him already with 44mm HT including the pink and black HSS bike.

https://forums.thepaceline.net/showt...&highlight=HSS


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Old 12-30-2018, 04:31 PM
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Old 12-31-2018, 08:44 AM
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Yeah, asthetically it could be pleasing, but not sure it needs the extra 30-50 grams between the headtube and fork. There is a downside to 44mm headtubes.

Mike and I debated this as I have two bikes from him already with 44mm HT including the pink and black HSS bike.

https://forums.thepaceline.net/showt...&highlight=HSS


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I believe a 44mm HT gives you several options with respect to headset choice and fork choice (You can go straight, 1.25" or 1.50" tapered, etc), a few grams be damned. I just believe it's the best way to go, given the choice. That's not to say a regular, 1.125 incher won't serve you well, of course. It will. BEAUTIFUL frame! BTW, can you give us a close-up of those welds? Say, the TT/ST junction?

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Old 12-31-2018, 09:11 AM
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I believe a 44mm HT gives you several options with respect to headset choice and fork choice (You can go straight, 1.25" or 1.50" tapered, etc), a few grams be damned. I just believe it's the best way to go, given the choice. That's not to say a regular, 1.125 incher won't serve you well, of course. It will. BEAUTIFUL frame! BTW, can you give us a close-up of those welds? Say, the TT/ST junction?
A 44mm HT regardless of fork also adds stiffness which is not always a desirable or good thing. As an example, Dave Kirk still makes bikes with a 1" head tube when he feels it is the best solution for the customers bike. If Mike Z discussed the option with the customer and they both decided 1.125 was the best solution, than a 44mm HT in this case was the wrong answer.

Thanks for sharing your beautiful bike. Mike's list is open again for all those who want to get in line.
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Old 12-31-2018, 09:32 AM
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With DK frames, 1" is the ONLY option...but those frames are steel, so larger than 1" is probably overkill, although there are many steel frame builders who offer the standard 1.125". It's all good.....
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Old 12-31-2018, 10:41 AM
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With DK frames, 1" is the ONLY option...but those frames are steel, so larger than 1" is probably overkill, although there are many steel frame builders who offer the standard 1.125". It's all good.....
Not trying to be argumentative or take this thread off topic, but... My Kirk has a 1.125 steerer. I'm sure it's not the only one.
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Old 12-31-2018, 10:46 AM
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Not trying to be argumentative or take this thread off topic, but... My Kirk has a 1.125 steerer. I'm sure it's not the only one.
Really? That's news to me. I STAND CORRECTED! Is it lugged?(Years back, when I inquired, 1" was the only option for a lugged steel DK)
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Old 12-31-2018, 10:47 AM
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With DK frames, 1" is the ONLY option...but those frames are steel, so larger than 1" is probably overkill, although there are many steel frame builders who offer the standard 1.125". It's all good.....
That is not and never has been true.

I offer lugged bikes with either a 1" or 1 1/8" steerer depending on the size of the main tubes being used.

I offer fillet bikes with a 1", a 1 1/8" or to fit a tapered OS steerer (44mm head tube).

I just wanted to clear this up.

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Old 12-31-2018, 11:05 AM
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"Never has been true"... Not what I was advised years back, IIRC. Options have obviously changed since then. Again, I stand corrected!

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Old 12-31-2018, 12:25 PM
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"Never has been true"... Not what I was advised years back, IIRC. Options have obviously changed since then. Again, I stand corrected!
I have offered both steerer sizes from day one when I started in 2003....1" with lugged and 1" and 1 1/8" with fillet at that time. In time XL sized lugs became available and after I built and tested bikes with them I offered them for sale.

So it "never has been true" that I only offered one steerer size....there was a time when it was only one with lugs but that time ended long ago. No doubt when you placed your order I was not able to offer XL sized lug bikes and that is why 1" was the only size for lugs. Had you told me that you felt dead set on a given steerer size for some reason I would have told you that I could do that in fillets but not lugs and if that wasn't your cup of tea we would not have started into a build together.

I'm sorry for the thread hijack - back to Zank's oh-so-cool work..........

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Old 12-31-2018, 12:33 PM
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Yes! Back to the Ti Zank!

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