OT: Boeing 737 MAX

[Gsinill]

First US lawsuit filed against Boeing by the family of one of the victims.
Ralph Nader's grandniece being amongst the fatalities most likely adds some visibility too.

[alancw3]

a new article that I felt not only explained the current problem with the max planes but gives a history of how it developed:

https://www.vox.com/business-and-fin...ndal-explained

[Tony T]

The Roots of Boeing’s 737 Max Crisis: A Regulator Relaxes Its Oversight
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/27/b...core-ios-share

So the company never submitted an updated safety assessment of those changes to the agency. In several briefings in 2016, an F.A.A. test pilot learned the details of the system from Boeing. But the two F.A.A. engineers didn’t understand that MCAS could move the tail as much as 2.5 degrees, according to two people familiar with their thinking.

Under the impression the system was insignificant, officials didn’t require Boeing to tell pilots about MCAS. When the company asked to remove mention of MCAS from the pilot’s manual, the agency agreed. The F.A.A. also did not mention the software in 30 pages of detailed descriptions noting differences between the Max and the previous iteration of the 737.

Days after the Lion Air crash, the agency invited Boeing executives to the F.A.A.’s Seattle headquarters, according to two people with knowledge of the matter. The officials sat incredulous as Boeing executives explained details about the system that they didn’t know.

In the middle of the conversation, an F.A.A. employee, one of the people said, interrupted to ask a question on the minds of several agency engineers: Why hadn’t Boeing updated the safety analysis of a system that had become so dangerous?

[OtayBW]

And yet it still took until March 2016 for the US to ground the aircraft.

[unterhausen]

It is pretty disappointing that Boeing engineering has fallen to such a pitiful level.

[Tony T]

NYT FEATURE

What Really Brought Down the Boeing 737 Max?
Malfunctions caused two deadly crashes. But an industry that puts unprepared pilots in the cockpit is just as guilty.

By William Langewiesche
Sept. 18, 2019
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/m...core-ios-share

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by Tony T

NYT FEATURE

What Really Brought Down the Boeing 737 Max?
Malfunctions caused two deadly crashes. But an industry that puts unprepared pilots in the cockpit is just as guilty.

By William Langewiesche
Sept. 18, 2019
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/m...core-ios-share

'For Pay' article..

[pobrien]

Peter,

I was able to read the article without any difficulty.
perhaps try it again. It was interesting on several fronts.

it is a sad and troubling story, no question.

Patrick

[glepore]

NYT gives a few free articles a month, then its pay.

The guy who wrote the piece-William Langewiesche- can really write. His book on the post 9/11 work at ground zero is brilliant, and as was "Fly by Wire" and the recent piece in the NYT on Malaysia Air.

[deechee]

If you don't want to delete your cookies & history, just install another browser and open the NYtimes. Hopefully Chrome will fix their incognito loophole soon: https://www.blog.google/outreach-ini...owsing-chrome/

[FlashUNC]

Or subscribe. Pay for quality journalism.

William Langewiesche's coverage of these kinds of disasters is always appointment reading.

Here's his story about the sinking of the Estonia: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...-story/302940/

[marciero]

Actually read a hard, paper, tactile copy in the Sunday Magazine.
Wow. Incredible story, writing, and analysis-on technical, human, and geo-economic fronts.

[bobdenver1961]

I would not call the New York Times quality journalism.....just sayin....

[pbarry]

NYT has a $4 a month basic subscription, at least for the first year.

[saab2000]

Originally Posted by bobdenver1961

I would not call the New York Times quality journalism.....just sayin....

Have you ever actually spent time reading the NYT or is this reaction just a repeat of what someone on a TV channel said?

Anyone who has ever actually spent time reading a NYT will quickly realize that most of their content is actually really well researched and well written and the overwhelming majority of their content isn’t partisan or political.

This reaction sounds like something a TV host on a certain network or radio host might say....