Dura Ace or Ultegra

[zap]

Campy 12......take your pick of Chorus, Record or SR.

I have Ultegra 8000 on my Trek Emonda.

The Ultegra 8000 group is a disappointment. I mean it works (after replacing a defective rear derailleur-a first!) but I swear Shimano used Soviet era metal.......corrosion like I've never seen before on bicycle bits.

I replaced some Ultegra parts on my wife's new bike with Dura Ace. Higher quality materials.

[vincenz]

If you feel like it’s a prize frame, then it deserves at least Record. If you’re just going to toss it around on dirt I’d give it Ultegra.

[Elefantino]

Dura-Ace. It's just that much better all around.

[biker72]

I've got Ultegra 8000 on one of my titanium bikes. NICE!!!
I can't imagine Dura-Ace being much better. I'd see what the cost difference is.

[Gummee]

Originally Posted by Mark McM

No, I don't think that was it. After a few mis-shifts (and not knowing what was going on), I was careful about what I hit and when. It definitely only occurred on the 2nd press of the inner lever, and the lever itself wasn't locked up - the lever rotated further inboard on the 2nd press than on the 1st press (and there was no back-pressure on the 2nd press, indicating it was moving independently and not engaged with anything), and the main lever remained perfectly straight.

I get that every once in a while on my 9000 stuff too.

It's annoying, but ultimately, not fatal.

M

[soulspinner]

Originally Posted by bob heinatz

Hey I love Campy but I do want to try Shimano. Thanks so far for your replies. Other opinions?

Simply think a Kirk deserves Dura Ace or Record

[Chris]

Honest question: I’m thinking about building a new house. We have the choice of wood or metal studs. I don’t have any engineering experience. I’d like to get some opinions on wood vs metal.

Paceline Answer: Are you sure you should be buying a house right now? Renting seems like a more economical decision at this point. Or maybe get an RV instead and travel.

[GParkes]

I have SRAM Force on my custom Kirk and it is perfect (bike and group). I believe Dave rides SRAM as well. Just sayin'.

[FlashUNC]

105.

[Kirk007]

Dura ace. Over time the cost difference is trivial and it's a slightly nicer finish. They both work the same. Dura ace 9100 will handle a 32 tooth sprocket. If you want to run a 34 get an Ultegra GS rear derailleur and switch it in for those big climbing days. Easy peazy.

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[Clean39T]

Originally Posted by Dave

Chorus 12 will soon be out and have an 11-34 with better cog spacing and a sub-compact crank option. Only the black aluminum brake levers turn me off.
I'd have to move up to Record levers.

Shimano may need another hub redesign for 12 speed.

https://www.campagnolo.com/US/en/Mec...ts/chorus/road

+1000

I'm putting Chorus 12 on my Kirk as soon as it's available.

The new hoods and shifters feel amazing.

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[Clean39T]

Originally Posted by Mark McM

I've recently tried 3 different Ultegra equipped bikes, and I've noticed some undesireable behavior with the shifters, but maybe I'm just using them wrong.



I've been a long time Campagnolo user, and I've become accustomed to using Ergo shifters (specifically, the Ultra-Shift variety). I'm used to being able to shift multiple rear sprockets with a single lever throw, in both directions. With Ultegra (or any other Shimano mechanical STI shifter) one can do multiple shifts to larger sprockets, but when shifting to smaller sprockets of course it will only shift one sprocket per lever push. Fair enough, I guess - that's just the way they're designed to work. But one would think that if you wanted to shift to a gear 2 or 3 sprockets away toward the smaller sprockets, you'd just push the upshift lever 2 or 3 times in a row. But in my experience, if you push the upshift lever multiple times in quick succession, the lever will often fail to engage the shift mechanism, and therefore fail to do a shift. So instead of shifting, the lever just flaps back and forth.



When the shifters on the first bike did this, I figured that that maybe the lever was just a little sticky. But the 2nd bike I tried with Ultegra shifters did the same thing. And the Ultegra levers on the 3rd bike also did this. Am I just doing it wrong? Or are shifts with Ultegra shifters just inherently slower than with Campagnolo shifters?

I've had the same malfunction on R8000 shifters.

OP, if you feel as though you must try Shimano, go 9100 with an 11-32 R8000 cassette. Or go subcompact up front so you can run 11-30 out back.

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[Seramount]

built my bike with Ultegra...not a thing wrong with it.

after a crash, upgraded to DA. don't regret it for a second...just makes me 'happier'...

[bob heinatz]

Seramount does the Dura Ace function different from Ultrgra or does it simply look nicer and built to a higher standard?

[bob heinatz]

Btw I have no problem with Campy loyalists.