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Shimano 105 R7000 is here
Looks good. We can finally say goodbye to those hideous RS505 hydraulic STI levers.
I wish they offered sub-compact (48/32, or even 46/30) crank options though. Quote:
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that looks real good. And yes, those shimano shifters were probably some of the worst shifters in history. These look great though, the levers do look like the rs-685. wonder if they just trickled down that design for r7000
Also interested in the disc hubs... |
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It says the design of the levers match that of the Ultegra R8020, which look pretty good IMO:
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Disappointed there's no RX clutch derailleur. Looks like the 5801 FD revision was R7000 afterall. Hoping there's a similar 34-11 10-sp compatible cassette like the HG800 too.
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Curious why your disappointed about no clutch? Do you plan on doing a lot of really bumpy off road stuff?
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No electronic yet, or maybe still waiting to introduce?
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Yes, I know what it is, and I know what it does. But unless I was riding super bumpy Roubaix type roads/terrain, I can’t see any benefit to it on decent pavement. Little harsher shifting. Plus, I didn’t follow what he was saying about it negating the need for a chain catcher up front. The chain falls off from the top as it is leaving the big ring. The clutch only tensions things from below. Can’t see how it would even come into play up front.
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The people who use the hydro brakes may be riding that sort of terrain, esp with a 34 in the back. Once they announced the RX yesterday, I was hoping the 105 would have the option too. That clutch works pretty great with the MTB groups, which is where the shadow design came from.
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Yes, great for the mountain bike stuff for sure. And really rough fast rocky roads too... not so much for smooth gravel. But on decently paved roads with a road bike... pass.
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In their marketing language, they specifically mention "gravel, adventure or CX riding", so I agree that a clutch RD option would have been nice. Same reason a sub-compact crank option would have been nice as well.
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Agreed on both counts. If this is as nice as my 5800 it’ll be nice indeed, especially for the money. Amazing value.
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Hopefully they perform better than the 8020’s which are total crap, I am trying to warranty my warinteed pair of 8020’s as I write this. Both sets totally failed this winter, I guess they are designed to only work in warm dry conditions. The “worst shifters ever...105’s” will go back on for the spring, and I’m sure they will work flawlessy...but I have never been about vanity, only how they work!...
I have never heard of failures of the 105’s so could you let us know why they are the worst shifters in history, I want to know of the failures before they happen. What failures are you referring to???????? |
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What went wrong with your 8020 shifters; did they start leaking in the cold or something? |
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They didn’t leak, both times the lever snapped in the body... my personal opinion is that the smaller design and the mineral fluid freezing required more pressure to brake and the internals weren’t designed for the conditions.
The 105’s may not look great but they work, I’m OK with that! None of my my bikes would win a beauty contest! |
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