Is 105 still entry level?

[ridethecliche]

I've yet to get my big kid job, so many of my bike choices are financially motivated. I last bought a bike with the pre R7000 105 and upgraded to R7000 to swap parts over and sell a different bike.

R7000 is phenomenal. I love it so much. It easily compares to the performance of DA7800 that I bought used on here when I was racing in college.

My 'gravel' bike came with RS685 shifters which feel really awesome as well.

The point of biggest diminishing returns is past 105. I would definitely spend more if I had the cash available to save weight and get something shinier but from a performance standpoint it's honestly gotten to the point where it's a legit wash.

Edit: I hope they don't do away with mechanical shifting on 105 but I've ridden claris on my commuter for a bit and it's quite alright.

[cgates66]

Originally Posted by Black Dog

I will assume that you do not have a crank with a hurth joint (split axle). If you did you certainly would not be calling it silly. Btw. Campy is not the only crank maker that uses the silly joint.

The total system is probably pretty good in reality, even if the joint is an odd choice for application. As I understand it Hirth joints are best in high-speed, low-torque applications (jet engines, for example) - so I like poking fun at it but of course anything can be made to work, and I have no doubt that Camapgnolo cranks work just fine. So maybe it'll be all Campy after all!