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Old 04-13-2016, 06:14 AM
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Just finished another "modified" Ksyrium SL.
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Old 04-13-2016, 06:52 AM
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Have you weighed those rims?
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Old 04-13-2016, 07:59 AM
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Have you weighed those rims?
No... Why?

Is the SL part of the label stupid?

I have built two modified Ksyriums so far, one labeled as Elite, the other SL. Both are in fact the same rim.

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Old 04-13-2016, 09:33 AM
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No... Why?

Is the SL part of the label stupid?

I have built two modified Ksyriums so far, one labeled as Elite, the other SL. Both are in fact the same rim.
Frequently, the difference in the "standard" and "lightweight" versions of wheel is that the "lightweight" version uses lighter hubs.

It is difficult to reduce rim weight while maintaining stiffness/strength/durability.
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Old 04-13-2016, 09:43 AM
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I have built two modified Ksyriums so far, one labeled as Elite, the other SL. Both are in fact the same rim.
you should make up some "WL" labels - "weisan lite"
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Old 04-13-2016, 11:20 AM
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No... Why?

Is the SL part of the label stupid?

I have built two modified Ksyriums so far, one labeled as Elite, the other SL. Both are in fact the same rim.
Nope, just curious.
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Old 06-29-2016, 12:03 AM
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Inquiring minds would like to know after building all these wheels how are you applying your rim tape. Over lap facing forward or facing back ward, does it make a difference? Diagonal cut to the tape or straight cut?

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Old 07-10-2017, 09:47 AM
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new do it all wheelset complete. these AC hubs picked up from snowcrash here are pretty nice!





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Nice Nick! I am with you, those are still some of my favorite rims. I wish they updated them to tubeless.... but keep everything the same.
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Old 10-11-2017, 03:51 PM
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Time to build a couple more wheels before I get rusty from lack of practice.
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Who do you get your spokes from?
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Old 10-11-2017, 04:49 PM
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Who do you get your spokes from?
The recycle bin at YBP, which I have done for all the past builds, including the hubs.
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When building a wheel and following the recommended spoke tension, are you looking for average or individual spoke tension? Velocity recommends 110-130. I am working on a 3x sapim race 26" aeroheat wheel for a tandem,and my readings are fairly consistently 21-22 on the park tension meter. But, there are a few outliers that are showing 23 and 24(maybe 4) and fewer (maybe 2) that are showing 20. I think I'm ok with the average tension being on the high side since this will be a tandem wheel, but should be concerned about the outliers since 24 on a 1.7mm spoke is 150kgf per the park chart? At this point the wheel is dished, round and pretty true.

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When building a wheel and following the recommended spoke tension, are you looking for average or individual spoke tension? Velocity recommends 110-130. I am working on a 3x sapim race 26" aeroheat wheel for a tandem,and my readings are fairly consistently 21-22 on the park tension meter. But, there are a few outliers that are showing 23 and 24(maybe 4) and fewer (maybe 2) that are showing 20. I think I'm ok with the average tension being on the high side since this will be a tandem wheel, but should be concerned about the outliers since 24 on a 1.7mm spoke is 150kgf per the park chart? At this point the wheel is dished, round and pretty true.
Not familiar with the Park gauge but does '23-24' and '20' still put the tension in the 110130 kgf range? Is the rim new? Race spokes are 1.8mm center section(the section to measure), not 1.7..ahh, see 24 is 150 kgf..reduce that spoke and raise the two on either side of that spoke on the other side..to keep dish..
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Old 10-31-2018, 12:38 PM
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Great information in this thread.

Ready to try my first build:
Campy 32h hubs
Mavic reflex rims (from unused donor wheel set)

Need to measure actual ERD - will use the spoke method from the park website.

Planning for double butted spokes and brass nipples.

Qs:
Good online source for spokes?
Spoke/Nipple brand make any difference?
Spoke/Nipple prep? Confused by all the opinions (boiled linseed, gear or motor oil, specific prep compounds, etc)
Pattern recommended for front and rear?

tia, M
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