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Old 08-02-2021, 06:37 PM
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Everything in that link that i could find was for renters, I'm talking about emergency relief for the landlord.
The rental arrears are in most cases paid directly to the landlord, and not to the tenant. That is the case in New York and many if not most other states.
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Old 08-02-2021, 06:44 PM
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The government has no business interfering in a contract between a renter and their landlord.
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Old 08-02-2021, 06:50 PM
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The government has no business interfering in a contract between a renter and their landlord.
And a virus has no business interfering in, well, everything. People before money.
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Old 08-02-2021, 06:50 PM
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From a WSJ article, there’s been many millions allocated for rent relief and only a very small portion has been given out.

“Billions of dollars in funding already passed by Congress hasn’t made its way to renters. Just $3 billion of $47 billion in aid authorized by Congress in December and March to help people pay their rent had been delivered to landlords and tenants as of June 30, the Treasury Department said in a recent report.”

Not exactly an efficient response from big government, but we get what we vote for, and sometimes we get it good and hard.

And then there’s the part about the just past CDC method being illegal.
With all this going on, there are several really big companies buying up single family housing to rent. Even whole subdivisions! New stuff built to this purpose as well.

The big guys will make out on this, the small fry suffer.
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Old 08-02-2021, 07:10 PM
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Haha….well see that’s what I get for basing my point on having been there, 20yrs ago. We are always trying to find new places to put on the short list of next jumps/retirement options. The no tax thing is a non-negotiable, so our options are already constrained.
Relo to Reno -- it makes sense for so many reasons.. smoky casinos and gambling related crime/drug activity notwithstanding.
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Old 08-02-2021, 08:50 PM
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And a virus has no business interfering in, well, everything. People before money.

Well, a virus doesn't have rights at all but I guess it has just as much of a right to exist as we do, but that is besides the point. A virus isn't why people couldn't afford their rent. The story is much more complex than that.


Also, "people before money"? what do you think money is exactly? "people before money" just reads like "some people before other people" to me.
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Old 08-02-2021, 08:59 PM
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I wonder how many people on this forum who have made disparaging comments about landlords would be willing to let others use their property for free, or provide their services without payment.
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Old 08-02-2021, 09:01 PM
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I wonder how many people on this forum who have made disparaging comments about landlords would be willing to let others use their property for free, or provide their services without payment.
Right? I assume all of them would let people right in and be totally okay with spending thousand and months on a lawyer to evict them.
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Old 08-02-2021, 09:18 PM
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Isn't giving vouchers for tenants to pay rent essentially giving vouchers to landlords, though?
Ah! An excellent point made indeed. I would argue yes.
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Old 08-02-2021, 09:29 PM
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Ah but what if there is a dispute? Pistols at dawn?

Derp!

Libertarians are the equivalent of teenagers in political thought, they are always right and no one can tell 'em what to do.

I know too, because I actually used to be one.

When I finally woke up I realized that the ideology was one born of privilege.
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Old 08-02-2021, 09:42 PM
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Ah but what if there is a dispute? Pistols at dawn?

Derp!

Libertarians are the equivalent of teenagers in political thought, they are always right and no one can tell 'em what to do.

I know too, because I actually used to be one.

When I finally woke up I realized that the ideology was one born of privilege.
Looked much at progressive libertarianism?
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Old 08-02-2021, 10:14 PM
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You can feel the thread lock coming ...
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Old 08-02-2021, 10:23 PM
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No income tax is great....but high property tax, high sales tax, and highest gas tax in the country make up for it....
States need revenue to operate. Bottom line. They will get it, in one form or another. Best you can hope for is to be saddled with taxes you can avoid. I say tax cigarettes and liquor like crazy.
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Old 08-02-2021, 10:26 PM
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Old 08-03-2021, 01:04 AM
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I don't think you could pay me to get into this business LOL. There really is a difference between landlords and simple property owners who rent out a spare house. But still I'd not do either, ever, too many horror stories.
Well, I'm thinking about getting into it on a small scale here in the Seattle area because [1] we have some land that doesn't really benefit us as a yard and [2] we're paying property taxes on it and [3] wages aren't going up while rent and other costs are. In that context, it's looking sensible to try to build a unit or two and rent them out. If I can get the lot split and permits to build in ~2 years, I could have the construction costs paid off in ~8 years, and so any rental income after that would be mostly income and possibly help me retire earlier.
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