Know the rules The Paceline Forum Builder's Spotlight


Go Back   The Paceline Forum > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-03-2019, 08:02 PM
TimS TimS is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 81
Pittsburgh Dirty Dozen

Has anyone done it? I have done plenty of triathlons, marathons, ironmen, this one has me a little nervous. Few people finish their first go at it. Any suggestions?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-03-2019, 08:06 PM
steamer's Avatar
steamer steamer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Altoona PA
Posts: 397
It's a ride of attrition. I'm assuming you aren't worried about the competitive aspect. Pack very low gears and put your ego in check (ride conservatively) and you'll be fine.

You've got almost 11 months to get ready.

Disclaimer: I haven't done it but a bunch of my friends have. I am relating their feedback.
__________________
-Tom

http://rothrockcyrcle.wordpress.com/
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-03-2019, 08:19 PM
Ralph Ralph is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 6,382
Quote:
Originally Posted by steamer View Post
It's a ride of attrition. I'm assuming you aren't worried about the competitive aspect. Pack very low gears and put your ego in check (ride conservatively) and you'll be fine.

You've got almost 11 months to get ready.

Disclaimer: I haven't done it but a bunch of my friends have. I am relating their feedback.
Have a friend who has "tried" to do this ride. His advice.....gears way lower than 1-1. Mt Bike type gears on a road bike unless you are really strong.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-03-2019, 08:24 PM
steamer's Avatar
steamer steamer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Altoona PA
Posts: 397
I should note that I know all my friends through randonneuring and we all ride triple cranks.
__________________
-Tom

http://rothrockcyrcle.wordpress.com/
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-03-2019, 08:48 PM
tctyres's Avatar
tctyres tctyres is offline
Tired Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 2,419
I did it with a 36 in front and a 32 in back.
It's no problem, really. I rode the second wave, but I should have gone with the first, more competitive wave. I think they will do next year's in October again.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-03-2019, 09:10 PM
DeBike DeBike is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: South-coastal Delaware
Posts: 1,281
I have seen some video of it. It looks wicked. Riders literally just falling over from not being able to climb anymore and can't dismount quick enough. I cannot remember the grade, but one hill is especially steep, one of the steepest in the USA. It is just flat out nasty!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-03-2019, 09:38 PM
Ralph Ralph is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 6,382
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeBike View Post
I have seen some video of it. It looks wicked. Riders literally just falling over from not being able to climb anymore and can't dismount quick enough. I cannot remember the grade, but one hill is especially steep, one of the steepest in the USA. It is just flat out nasty!
One of the problems is people stopping in front of you...who can't get going again uphill. So you have to plan each hill with maneuver room.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-01-2024, 11:18 AM
pdonk pdonk is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: 416
Posts: 3,091
As this is the most recent thread, any updates or advice, seriously considering it for the end of the month and my wife is supportive.

Gearing options are 1:1 (33x33 on one bike and 34x34 on the other) but likely could get a 34x36 or 34x42(if it would work with a long cage road derailleur) if they'll help. I'd be running 2x

It would be the most climbing I have ever done in a single day, length does not seem that bad.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-01-2024, 11:29 AM
NateFrentz NateFrentz is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 73
I did it 34 - 30 and grinded up no problem, but I was also in my 20s the last time I did it
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-01-2024, 11:40 AM
Wunder Wunder is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 461
Quote:
Originally Posted by pdonk View Post
As this is the most recent thread, any updates or advice, seriously considering it for the end of the month and my wife is supportive.

Gearing options are 1:1 (33x33 on one bike and 34x34 on the other) but likely could get a 34x36 or 34x42(if it would work with a long cage road derailleur) if they'll help. I'd be running 2x

It would be the most climbing I have ever done in a single day, length does not seem that bad.
Depending on your bike/setup I've managed a 50/34 with 11-40 (XT 11) using Ultegra/105 mix (R7000GS rear derailleur). I've not done this particular ride but I've done a few in the same vein. Firm believer in bringing the lowest gears you can manage.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-01-2024, 12:55 PM
sasquatch16v sasquatch16v is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2022
Location: WNY
Posts: 147
Quote:
Originally Posted by pdonk View Post
As this is the most recent thread, any updates or advice, seriously considering it for the end of the month and my wife is supportive.

Gearing options are 1:1 (33x33 on one bike and 34x34 on the other) but likely could get a 34x36 or 34x42(if it would work with a long cage road derailleur) if they'll help. I'd be running 2x

It would be the most climbing I have ever done in a single day, length does not seem that bad.

I did it in 2019 with a 52/36 11-30 (at the time, MAYBE a 32 but pretty sure it was a 30). No issue... At the time I was about 188-190 lbs FWIW...

from what I recall the first and the last 2 climbs are by far the hardest. Maybe the 6th... there was a sneaky one in the middle.

do NOT be scared of Canton ave (the steepest road in the US or whatever). I honestly thought that was the easiest one except for people falling over randomly. Its less than 1/4 of a mile. Take a WIDE turn to get to the road so you can have your line set and pointed straight before you hit the brick part... for some reason it always rains on the DD day, sooooo there's that.

Pack your own fuel to be safe, there is some aid stations but the offerings may not be what you need/want.

It's a pretty fantastic way to see Pittsburgh. I was 1 group down from the "competitive" group. The pace through town was VERY neutral with a bunch of traffic stops too.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-01-2024, 01:34 PM
rwsaunders's Avatar
rwsaunders rwsaunders is offline
Everything is connected
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Seaburgh
Posts: 11,355
This gent from LA posted a decent series on training for the ride. If you're in good shape, just run your lowest gear combination possible and keep your fingers crossed for dry cobbles on the steeper hills. Count on the other riders for support and the veterans for tips. There is a Dirty Dozen FB feed as well...good luck!

https://youtu.be/pRsZbwQOAMo?si=PM8Nsit2H9ixSob8

https://www.facebook.com/events/6201...NEWS_FEED&_rdr
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-01-2024, 05:24 PM
Kyle h Kyle h is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 1,370
Resident Pittsburgher and here’s my take. Use the lowest gearing you can. I’ve done it on about everything from 36-30 through 34-36. 34-34 is the sweet spot for me but my wife is a higher cadence rider than me and much prefers the 34-36. If you can fit 30c tires on your bike, that’s probably a good move as well.

It’s a super fun event, the competition wave brings out some awesome talent and the other waves all seem to have a nice sense of camaraderie. It’s a long day and honestly the hardest part about it for me is the standing around after hills, my body just does not appreciate a full gas effort followed by a 5-10min stop.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-01-2024, 05:43 PM
Kyle h Kyle h is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 1,370
Quote:
Originally Posted by sasquatch16v View Post
from what I recall the first and the last 2 climbs are by far the hardest. Maybe the 6th... there was a sneaky one in the middle.
They’ve changed the order up a little in the past few years due to some road closures; they’ve taken out Logan (the #6 you’re referring to) which for many was among the hardest but was one of my personal favorites. The road surface has gotten really bad and at one point a local came out and was threatening people with a knife for blocking his driveway a few years back.

The last two are brutal, and it’s not just because you’re 11 hills in.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10-01-2024, 09:54 PM
pdonk pdonk is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: 416
Posts: 3,091
If I decide to do it I'll report back. If not this year, next year for sure.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:35 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.