What's the difference btw. SRAM Red etap and etap AXS?

54ny77 · #1 05-23-2020, 08:19 AM

Subject says it all. Thanks!

Andy sti · #2 05-23-2020, 08:34 AM

Biggest is 1 gear. AXS is 12 speed, requires XDR freehub/driver and the cassettes all start with a 10 cog. Chainrings are also smaller on AXS.

FlashUNC · #3 05-23-2020, 10:10 AM

AXS is also fully compatible with their Eagle AXS bits for some mullet builds, and has an app to customize a number of shifting and interface items.

Mr B · #4 05-23-2020, 10:31 AM

I heard AXS allows you to remotely shift your bike from anywhere on earth.
Useful technology if you happen to log into your Nest system whilst on vacation and spot a thief pedalling your bike right outta your garage

Latestart · #5 05-23-2020, 11:08 AM

I have AXS and V1 etap. AXS shifts MUCH more quickly; can't comment on later versions/current version of eTap.

I suspect AXS is going to be a 'platform' and eTap will fade away over time, but that is speculation. There is no reason to have them both as they could easily make an AXS that has everything that eTap has.

RedRider · #6 05-23-2020, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Latestart

I have AXS and V1 etap. AXS shifts MUCH more quickly; can't comment on later versions/current version of eTap.

I suspect AXS is going to be a 'platform' and eTap will fade away over time, but that is speculation. There is no reason to have them both as they could easily make an AXS that has everything that eTap has.

eTap support has already stopped. Parts are difficult to find other than on eBay. AXS is a much more advanced product but that was a fast, high priced model life.

thirdgenbird · #7 05-23-2020, 12:41 PM

Remember when di2 first hit the market and people bragged about how electronic shifting was going to all but eliminate obsolescence because software updates would remove the need to buy new shifters/derailleurs? Hard to believe people really thought manufacturers would give up parts sales in exchange for software reflashes.

I’m not knocking electronic shifting. I get the advantages, obsolescence just isn’t one of them.

FlashUNC · #8 05-23-2020, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr B

I heard AXS allows you to remotely shift your bike from anywhere on earth.
Useful technology if you happen to log into your Nest system whilst on vacation and spot a thief pedalling your bike right outta your garage

You heard wrong.

Mr B · #9 05-23-2020, 01:56 PM

Online sarcasm fail

54ny77 · #10 05-23-2020, 02:02 PM

AXS is 12 spd and regular Red etap is 11 spd? Or more simply, what the heck is "AXS?"

I went to SRAM website to read specs for a side by side comparison of functionality or something useful....but, nada. Lots of catchy marketing stuff though.

If I just wanted an 11 speed wireless drivetrain, would I look for "regular" Red etap?

eddief · #11 05-23-2020, 02:10 PM

Red Etap is for 11 speeds and available in either rim brake or hydro disc. disc is called Etap HRD. all AXS is 12 speed with "evolved?" gear ratios and XD-R free hub.

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Originally Posted by 54ny77

AXS is 12 spd and regular Red etap is 11 spd? Or more simply, what the heck is "AXS?"

I went to SRAM website to read specs for a side by side comparison of functionality or something useful....but, nada. Lots of catchy marketing stuff though.

If I just wanted an 11 speed wireless drivetrain, would I look for "regular" Red etap?

FlashUNC · #12 05-23-2020, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 54ny77

AXS is 12 spd and regular Red etap is 11 spd? Or more simply, what the heck is "AXS?"

I went to SRAM website to read specs for a side by side comparison of functionality or something useful....but, nada. Lots of catchy marketing stuff though.

If I just wanted an 11 speed wireless drivetrain, would I look for "regular" Red etap?

Yup, but then you're off to eBay. Pipeline of 11 speed bits is very much dry these days.

eddief · #13 05-23-2020, 02:16 PM

https://glorycycles.com/search.php?s...ection=product

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Originally Posted by FlashUNC

Yup, but then you're off to eBay. Pipeline of 11 speed bits is very much dry these days.

zap · #14 05-23-2020, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RedRider

eTap support has already stopped. Parts are difficult to find other than on eBay. AXS is a much more advanced product but that was a fast, high priced model life.

Already......if correct then Sram is certainly not following Campy in supporting older group bits.

lavi · #15 05-23-2020, 02:54 PM

As long as they keep a rim brake option, I won't bitch.

I was/am a Campy fan. Aesthetically wonderful. Operationally great. I'm sure I'll try their (Magura) hydro at some point. I'm sure I'll be waiting a long time for the 1x13 as it'll be insanely priced.

That said, my 1st gen eTap is my FAV!!!!