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I have a hard time believing this considering i know cars break them all the time since basicly no cars ever go the speed limit. My point is that this is so common that its basicly not seen as breaking a traffic law. |
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What's in the videos posted above? NSFW? Don't wanna see some snuff film neither...
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Chisholm's Custom Wheels Qui Si Parla Campagnolo Last edited by oldpotatoe; 08-15-2019 at 06:24 AM. |
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I see cars run so many red lights every day I actually have a hard time believing cyclists are any worse than cars.
But the problem with education for cyclists is cyclists and cycling advocates could never agree on what system to teach people. You would have a big argument between the folks who think Vehicular Cycling ala John Forrester (RIP) is what should be taught and the folks who think "Cycling with a Cyclist inferiority complex" is the way to go. Right now I think the Cycling Inferiority Complex people have pretty much won the battle at the moment with all the advocation for broken bike lanes in cities, so they'd probably be teaching people all the stupid behaviors we're complaining about! Hug the curb, turn left from the right curb, dismount at every intersection and walk/use the crosswalk, ride the sidewalks, etc.. You'd just be training in stupidity, and then the car folks would probably go and advocate for changing the law to require us all to be stupid an inefficient in our cycling and have to walk across every intersection and use sidewalks and such. Right now the laws let us practice vehicular cycling and competitive/athletic road riding pretty much requires we ride that way... you don't want to do anything that might encourage the government to outlaw vehicular cycling and force all of us to ride like those delivery riders. |
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One of the reasons that almost all suburban communities built after the mid-1960's do not have 1:1 roadway:sidewalk ratios is the the American Civil Rights movement utilized the public sidewalks to peacefully demonstrate for the expansion of Constitutional rights and protections to all American citizens, in suburban communities.
There are other historical and developmental challenges to creating this kind of infrastructure. Houston partnered with the corporations that needed workers from communities with low car/home ownership, and they built 300 miles of dedicated bike trail connecting those communities to their jobs. Who cares what they do in NYC? It's a police state... not an exemplar. Thank you. I commute by bike with the kids everyday. Don't want to see that. Cheers! |
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52 year old commuter. Not a kid. Also, not "close" to a pedestrian but sent one to the hospital. https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/08...killed-in-nyc/ |
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"Cycling advocates" (i.e., segregationists) treat cyclists as pedestrians on two wheels. They don't see that for cycling to be an effective means of transportation, people have to be able to ride safely at speeds greater than 10 mph.
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I just had a man who was crossing against a red yell “don’t you follow the lights?” At me as I was going straight on a green light.
Made me think of this thread. Infrastructure just doesn’t work that well in big cities. There’s always a group of people who are gonna mess it up for everyone, pedestrians, cyclists and drivers who block intersections alike. |
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Perhaps if energy is scarce(NOT expensive, that makes little difference), but the resulting anarchy will be a much bigger problem..stock up on fuel and ammunition...$2.50 per gallon gas doesn't help.... I'd like to see a 'percentage of' gas tax, rather than decades old, flat amount..and use that to fix the above or at least make a dent in it. Quote:
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Chisholm's Custom Wheels Qui Si Parla Campagnolo Last edited by oldpotatoe; 08-15-2019 at 11:41 AM. |
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What a horrible video.
It just proves that you can be doing everything right and still draw the short stick. I commute to work 21 miles each way. along much of my commute there is a paved shoulder about 3-5 ft wide. About 8 miles of the road is chip seal with loads of loose gravel and other road debris, glass, trash, needles, nails, etc. I try to ride to the right of the white line but sometimes have to ride in the lane to avoid debris. There is another 7ish miles miles of road where the pavement is srelatively smooth and the wide shoulders are somewhat clear of rode debris. I usually try to ride about 2 ft to the right of the white line... No matter what, I would guess about 40% of all the traffic that passes me is driving on or straddling the white line!!! What is up with that??!! There needs to be BETTER DRIVER Education!! Many people I work with bring up the 'I saw a biker running a red light' excuse to rationalize that cyclists shouldn't be on the road...Umm, I see probably 10+ cars running red lights on eact segment of my commute, and see the same number driving in the dark without lights on. 2018 was the 3rd consecutive year of having over 40,000 motor vehicle deaths https://ohsonline.com/articles/2019/...le-deaths.aspx People are not trained, pay too much attention to their stupid phones, DUI, DWI etc. instead of paying attention to guiding a 2+ ton missile!!! |
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There was a retrospective on the Netherlands recently that went over the fight for bike traffic there in the early 1970s. People were completely against it. Now, it seems like an obvious choice. There was just a piece on the radio (cough, NPR) this morning about how the bike routes in NYC are piecemeal --- they don't fully connect. There is still a lot of work to be done to get away from band-aids and partial fixes. |
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The impact of an accident involving a motor vehicle is almost always much more deadly those involving cyclists disregarding traffic laws. That’s why the implications of a car or truck running a red light or similar infraction should be viewed differently. At least that’s the way law enforcement seems to handle it where I ride. BTW, I observe traffic laws when both riding and driving, as do almost all other riders I encounter.
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I think what I was misremembering is that he's gotten old enough he isn't showing up at the transportation conferences as much and/or he's being shouted down by a bunch of millenials who think he's full of it and segregation is the only way. He's 89, and I think he is being dismissed as "out of touch" or some nonsense by people who probably don't have anywhere near the breadth of experience. After all, riding over 10mph is for elitists! Really such a dumb thing. I rode to work this morning and maybe averaged 12mph. I successfully used Forester's ideas to cross a 5 lane road to take a left for about the millionth time even though I was riding slow with a big backpack in street clothes, no problem. Cars knew what I was doing, no one gave me a hard time, and I didn't delay anyone. Last edited by benb; 08-15-2019 at 01:13 PM. |
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I can't ignore the fact that if I'm ever involved in some sort of incident with a car, based on what I see every day riding and driving to work, it'll be from the rear because of a car "drifting" into the 3-5ft space that is supposed to be "mine" while the driver is too busy monkeying around with their phone/grabbing a drink/picking up that toy for their kid in the back seat (I've got two kiddos of my own...if they drop something...they can wait until I'm stopped)/etc. |
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