What is "stage race geometry"?

[zeroking17]

Originally Posted by e-RICHIE

so far we have a consensus atmo.
hang the cyclojournalists.

They're selling postcards of the hanging?

[rwsaunders]

Sounds like ERichie was issued a fatwa.

[avalonracing]

Originally Posted by zeroking17

Just to piggyback on the previous responses, "stage race geometry" is defined as shallower seat and head angles, lower bottom brackets, and longer chainstays compared to the insane, cock-eyed, terminator-like "crit/tri" geometry of several US mass-production framebuilders.

When racing crits I loved the 74 degree seat tube angle on my 57cm Klein and my 58cm Coppi. It made riding the rivet a hell of a lot easier to do. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a bike with a 74 degree STA again.

[zeroking17]

Originally Posted by avalonracing

When racing crits I loved the 74 degree seat tube angle on my 57cm Klein and my 58cm Coppi. It made riding the rivet a hell of a lot easier to do. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a bike with a 74 degree STA again.

That's because crits tend to favor riders who have insane, terminator-like urges during the race.

ps I'm not kidding -- much.

[e-RICHIE]

Originally Posted by avalonracing

When racing crits I loved the 74 degree seat tube angle on my 57cm Klein and my 58cm Coppi. It made riding the rivet a hell of a lot easier to do.

don't you ride the rivet in road races atmo?

[stevep]

Originally Posted by David Kirk

Make them ride a Scott.

Dave

anybody on here ride a scott?
just curious

[saab2000]

My best racing bike is my Look. I would be happy to race it in a stage race or a criterium.

I don't know quite what the difference would be.

That said, my Serotta CIII would probably be more suited for road races than Criteriums and the diving into corners at high speed.

[J.Greene]

Originally Posted by avalonracing

When racing crits I loved the 74 degree seat tube angle on my 57cm Klein and my 58cm Coppi. It made riding the rivet a hell of a lot easier to do. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a bike with a 74 degree STA again.

I find I do best when I can get in and out of the corners smoothly. The more speed I carry in the less I have to make up coming out. For me crits are all about corners. Not sure how sta has much to do with that. I love crits, but I think I like cross now more.

JG

Originally Posted by stevep

anybody on here ride a scott?
just curious

i had a CR1

my pacenti kicks the crap out of it

pacenti = makes me want to scream down descents

scott = makes me want to scream, down descents

Originally Posted by saab2000

My best racing bike is my Look. I would be happy to race it in a stage race or a criterium.

I don't know quite what the difference would be.

That said, my Serotta CIII would probably be more suited for road races than Criteriums and the diving into corners at high speed.

yeah

your look has a 72.5 sta, 74 sta...probably 5.0 of trail...and a very trad 7cm bb drop

[fiamme red]

Didn't Serotta make a criterium frame? The Davis Phinney model, I think it was?

[Fixed]

Originally Posted by fiamme red

Didn't Serotta make a criterium frame? The Davis Phinney model, I think it was?

since i'm sad poor old cannondale he worked for them as well
cheers

[avalonracing]

Originally Posted by e-RICHIE

don't you ride the rivet in road races atmo?

Yeah, I do that too. I pretty much ride the rivet all the time. That's why I wouldn't hesitate to buy another frame with an 74º STA (although no one seems to make them, stock). Hmmm, I wonder if someone would build one?

[e-RICHIE]

Originally Posted by avalonracing

Yeah, I do that too. I pretty much ride the rivet all the time. That's why I wouldn't hesitate to buy another frame with an 74º STA (although no one seems to make them, stock). Hmmm, I wonder if someone would build one?

the angle has nothing to do with the intended
use of the frame atmo. all it does is position you.

[Redturbo]

Originally Posted by stevep

anybody on here ride a scott?
just curious

eye wood