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https://www.viathonbicycles.com/coll...ti-surface-g-1
I would seriously consider the - I can't believe that I'm typing this - WalMart-owned brand. Attractive frame designed by an well-regarded bike industry engineer, excellent component spec, loads of tire/wheel options and, of course, fantastic price. Compare an Ultegra Stigmata to the Viathon. The $ differential is massive. |
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The Viathon frame is $2k, while a Stigmata is $2300. Not a huge difference, especially if the graphics, name, and warranty matter to you. Not sure of layup differences, so I won't get into that. But the Ultegra build, just for apples/apples, is $3300 vs $4600. A lot of that is the excellent, lifetime-warranty SC Reserve wheels, but there's nothing wrong with Ardennes wheels on the Viathon either.
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Santa Cruz will keep its value, that's for sure. I keep going back to the thesis, I know it ain't the same thing, but geez for 2nd bike, it's got a lot going for it, I rode one when I was in SF one time (owner's bike of all things) it was great.. https://thesis.bike/products/the-ob1-shredder
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Thanks for the correction, which begs the question, why are Ultegra parts so much more expensive if you buy them bolted to a Santa Cruz? |
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I have been looking out for an OPEN in XL for a decent price. A few months ago I was told they were in demand and not going on sale anytime soon. So, I was in the hunt for a used one.
Now, SC has updated their frame spec. Good stuff as I always liked these but didn’t have the tire clearance. Now, they do. More options; still need to wait for a sale though. |
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The 105 version for $2300 looks to be an even better deal. Gearing isn't quite right (11x32 and 50x34,) but that can be fixed.
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My friend is testing a Viathon right now. We have ridden a bunch of off-road on it together and he says it works really well. I am doing a gravel ride with him today, I will get more feedback. He says it is a Walmart bike and the the owners son is really into cycling. Interesting
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His review of the Viathon is very positive, said it does everything very well and has a good feel. However, he was on the G.1 Force -$3,550, has many high-end parts on it.
That price opens up many other options for bikes. |
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I just bought an Argon 18 Dark Matter because Stigmata didn't have the clearances I wanted, and now I see this...
Looks as nice as one would expect from Santa Cruz. |
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had some time to kill the other day before a meeting downtown and walked into Mellow Johnny's for a quick look-see. The Salsa Journeyman 650B - their entry-level gravel bike - caught my eye. For less than $1k, with 650bx2.1 tires, looks to me to be a lot of "gravel bike" for the money.
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I'm really liking the Juliana Quincy. Dang. Will be looking for demo rides!
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I have the Stigmata before this latest iteration, my only gripe has been tire clearance. I will be upgrading frames!
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