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Old 08-20-2019, 04:36 PM
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I saw Neil Young once in the town I live in with Daryl Hannah.
He was driving some crazy old Thunderbird that he converted to a hybrid.
He is very interesting
Also, found out recently that he was an avid HO train collector.
So much so, that he bought Lionel Trains
Also, didn't know he married Daryl Hannah.

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Old 08-20-2019, 04:39 PM
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Some friends of mine in Sonic Y. opened for him at a festival in Belgium years ago...in the backstage area he was walking around and then he went into this little trailer to warm up for the show...just him and his acoustic in there with door open...so I pulled up a chair and sat outside, listening to him sing alone for 3 or 4 numbers...later, onstage I got to stand behind his amp...the crowd was pretty young and fairly lame...he kept turning around and asking "what's wrong with these ****ing kids?"
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Old 08-20-2019, 04:59 PM
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I sometimes wonder which music will survive 100 years of time.
I doubt several Young pieces will not be there.
(unless the world will turn away).
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Old 08-20-2019, 05:06 PM
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I've heard that for people in the business, CSNY stands for Can't Stand Neil Young....
well, steve jobs hated him, so he cant be that bad
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Old 08-20-2019, 05:11 PM
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I saw Neil Young when he was touring with out Crazy Horse just doing acoustic sets. Thoroughly enjoyed it even though I'm not known to be a huge NY fan.









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Old 08-20-2019, 05:16 PM
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I like Neil. He's pretty awesome, still bringing it. That said, I think he's way wrong here. I consider my modern portable Spotify player(s) the most amazing technological advancement in audio playback.....yet. And, I'm almost 67, started playing 45s in the 60s, worked my way to 33rpm "record changers" in my dorm room, and graduated to quite the audio geek system of tube amps and Quad electrostatic speakers. But the Walkman was a revelation, because you could finally walk around with a lot of music that sounded pretty good, and play it anywhere. Now, with a phone and portable speakers, I have a massive record store in the sky called Spotify, that I can access anywhere, including the car (the second player I alluded to). Pretty much anything. I think that's awesome. Even in the gym now, I listen to anything on totally wireless headphones. Sure, on a certain scale, it sounds like s**t, but, hey, I first heard Hard Days Night and Satisfaction through a five inch speaker on a dash in my parent's car, and that didn't spoil the fun and thrills at all. It's, as always, only rock and roll. Don't get so picky. You'll miss a lot. Neil can afford the price and time, most can't.
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Old 08-20-2019, 05:31 PM
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I love NY more than most, but he is a retrogrouch in the worst way when it comes to music. The reality is most people are perfectly happy to listen over heavily compressed files thru crappy ibuds or pay a for airpods with mediocre sound quality all in the name of convenience. Modern overproduced music sounds fine on that setup, because it was engineered to. His solution was absurd and egotistical - the Pono was a solution to a problem that didn't exist (kinda like Tidal is now). Portability and quality don't intersect much, and most people don't carry around the quality of headphone to take advantage of the better signal response - convenience always wins out. He's also ignoring that it's never been a better time to be an audiophile. Ultra high bitrate/bitdepth FLACs are common now which offer literally an order of magnitude more information than a CD. And there is sufficient bandwidth to distribute them. Mastering is now vastly better, and more easily backed up (compared to the horrible loss of a massive Universal library we only recently found out about). Very high quality DACs are common now, and easily available for under $200. Add in a good set of cans, and you've got a killer setup without dropping a grand on a whole rack and another grand+ on speakers.

Since we're on a bike forum, here's my (crappy) analogy - it's like how modern carbon bikes are all identical and soullessly pumped out of Asian molds all fairly identical with similarly bland black finish, and all ride and look about the same. Compared to the days of steel and mythical craftsmen and the magical ride quality of certain tubesets and Italian airbrushing. But these carbon bikes blow steel away performance-wise, and are produced in huge numbers, and a halo bike from only a decade ago sells for peanuts on the used market without really giving up any performance advantage. There will always be an appreciation for both, but steel lovers are an increasingly dying breed. Kinda like vinyl.
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Old 08-20-2019, 05:36 PM
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... but, hey, I first heard Hard Days Night and Satisfaction through a five inch speaker on a dash in my parent's car, and that didn't spoil the fun and thrills at all. It's, as always, only rock and roll.
I think a lot of us can identify with the experience of really enjoying music while moving along in a car, even if it wasn't exactly 'high fidelity' sound. From the article:
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Young’s favorite place to listen to his own songs isn’t the studio, Hanlon says. It’s behind the wheel of his car. Consciously, you’re driving the car, which leaves your mind more open, which is a trick that Briggs taught Young. “We get on the two-lane blacktop,” Hanlon explains. “There’s something that happens when you drive, without trucks. You hear what comes to the top without focusing too hard.”
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Old 08-20-2019, 06:07 PM
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Just my opinion...but as an old musician who spent a good bit of time making records and in the studio ...the stuff about sound quality is pretty over done...I mean, if you want to spend 35 bucks on a new reissue of V. Underground vinyl, go right ahead...but to me, it's just new forms of marketing to get folks to buy stuff again and again in different formats...they never tell you that vinyl wears out each time it is played anyhow and loses quality...I can't hear any big differences via compressed files...besides, anyone who has played live music, or rock music anyhow for long enough live has their ears pretty much blown out anyhow and I am sure that is prolly true most of all for Neil...a good song will pop out of any speaker and sound great...and short of owning the original master tapes and hearing them thru a pristine system from a reel to reel machine you won't hear much real difference...
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Old 08-20-2019, 06:10 PM
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Just my opinion...but as an old musician who spent a good bit of time making records and in the studio ...the stuff about sound quality is pretty over done...I mean, if you want to spend 35 bucks on a new reissue of V. Underground vinyl, go right ahead...but to me, it's just new forms of marketing to get folks to buy stuff again and again in different formats...they never tell you that vinyl wears out each time it is played anyhow and loses quality...I can't hear any big differences via compressed files...besides, anyone who has played live music, or rock music anyhow for long enough live has their ears pretty much blown out anyhow and I am sure that is prolly true most of all for Neil...a good song will pop out of any speaker and sound great...and short of owning the original master tapes and hearing them thru a pristine system from a reel to reel machine you won't hear much real difference...
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Old 08-20-2019, 06:15 PM
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There's definitely a line to be drawn between cutesy bluetooth speakers/iPhone earbuds/Crosley turntables from Urban Outfitters and "audiophile" equipment costing thousands of dollars to get in to, but Neil just ends up coming off as a lunatic with his "sales pitches."
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Old 08-20-2019, 06:21 PM
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some friends of mine in the Stones went vegan....

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Some friends of mine in Sonic Y. opened for him at a festival in Belgium years ago...
Kim Johnson, Thurston Smith and the bass player from Pavement?
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Old 08-20-2019, 06:25 PM
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Kim Johnson, Thurston Smith and the bass player from Pavement?
oh ...well no...this would have been 96 or so I am guessing...whenever that metallica black album came out...the line up was them, young, sonics, sugar and lenny kravitz...black crowes as well I think...Lenny ran around backstage as the biggest dick of them all which is saying something....
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Old 08-20-2019, 06:35 PM
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oh ...well no...this would have been 96 or so I am guessing...whenever that metallica black album came out...the line up was them, young, sonics, sugar and lenny kravitz...black crowes as well I think...Lenny ran around backstage as the biggest dick of them all which is saying something....
Neil Young, Sonic Youth, Black Crowes and Sugar.

The 90s were so weird.
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Old 08-20-2019, 06:35 PM
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Neil Young, Sonic Youth, Black Crowes and Sugar.



The 90s were so weird.
Sugar, love me some Bob.
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