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#106
02-02-2020, 01:37 PM
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Quote from a relevant article here: https://cyclingtips.com/2016/06/does...make-us-safer/ "A reflective jacket, while clearly more effective than simple black clothing, limits reflective material to the rider’s torso which, according to Professor Wood and her colleagues “presents much less motion information to approaching drivers”. "Reflective strips on the knees and ankles, on the other hand, move up and down as the cyclist moves, helping drivers to better recognise the object in front of them as a moving cyclist, as opposed to a simple light source3. This finding seems to lead to an obvious recommendation for cyclists: if you want to maximise your safety at night, don’t just wear reflective clothing; ensure that the reflective clothing includes reflective strips worn on the ankles and knees." Hi Viz socks seem like a good answer. I'm partial to pink anyway. 
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#107
02-02-2020, 08:18 PM
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Why not both?
Nice bright jacket with bright booties. I can't think of a reason to wear a black jacket in the winter or evening light except a desire to increase the chances of getting hit. Bike lights are good, but I've noticed here in Seattle that bike lights get lost in the visual cacophony of car lights, street lights, porch lights, etc. There isn't much flat ground here so a driver can't identify a light by elevation. If the rider is coming towards the driver the light can appear stationary (like a porch light, moving slowly due to the motion of the car). All over the country drivers are hitting bicycles in broad daylight. I suspect every experienced rider on this forum has a story of nearly getting hit. (I even had a near miss by a policeman on a sunny day while I was in full blazing race kit. He claimed he didn't see me.) Why would anyone trust today's drivers to see them riding in full black in the rain or at night?
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#108
02-02-2020, 08:43 PM
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This is why I slap my head at people wearing black. This is the jersey I was wearing years ago when a policeman pulled in front of me from a cross road. He had the stop sign, and came to a stop, but then pulled out right in front of me.
Screen Shot 2020-02-02 at 6.30.48 PM.jpg He screeched to a halt. I screeched to a halt a foot from his passenger door. If my reaction time had been a tenth of a second slower I would have been under the SUV. Summer day, sunny, no traffic, no distractions, nothing in his sight line, and before cell phones and electronic gizmos in cars. How many people have a similar story? And people want to trust today's drivers and wear black in the dark and rain? That just makes me slap my head in disbelief. OK, enough of the rant about black jackets. Back to the most stylish piece of kit. Last edited by 9tubes; 02-02-2020 at 08:50 PM.
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#109
02-02-2020, 10:00 PM
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[QUOTE=9tubes;2652183]This is why I slap my head at people wearing black.
Attachment 1697992117 So your story could also prove the point that distracted drivers are distracted drivers and even your highly visible jersey was no better than a black one. I don't disagree that all black on a dark rainy night is at best unwise, particularly those who do so without lights. I'd say your take on the value of lights highlights the importance of understanding where you are riding and what works and what does not. Just across the sound from you on Bainbridge Island, most of our roads and streets are dark, very dark at night and even in the day lack the cacaphony of visual stimuli that you describe. Over here lights are far and away the most immediately visible signal of a bicycle. Finally having retired from many years of Seattle City cycling I'm not convinced that in today's Seattle anything you wear or do to make yourself visible on a dark, drenched night in the City is enough to make you safe. Maybe the guy I used to see commuting in full downhill body armor and a full face helmet had the right idea ; ) As to stylishness, unless you are into highly technical looks, I find ithard to argue with the Cafe du Cycliste vibe - lotsa nice pieces on their website.
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#110
02-03-2020, 02:02 AM
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Same here. The roads in england are dark and damp all winter. When I am out riding, the blinking light both front and back is noticeably from much farther away than any clothing. That's why I ride with my daylights blinking front and back
The one place nothing seems to help is being approached from behind into the sun. Lights, hiViz, doesn't really seem to matter.
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#114
02-03-2020, 06:26 AM
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I got hit in a hi viz vest, matching gloves, and reflective ankle bands. Shoes are hi viz as well. I had lights on front and back and the pickup drove across an intersection (he had a stop sign, I didn't) pulled right in front of me. Oh well, people don't see you. I agree to try and stay more visible and the moving parts draw attention to you better, but people walk dogs with 800 lumen flashlights around here, hard to figure out speeds I guess if you're half asleep driving a truck (it was just before dawn but within civil twilight)
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#115
02-03-2020, 06:48 AM
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I am looking for a new wind gilet as my Assos broke, went to the rapha site..... Black, black or black or maybe white. No more high vis of any sort. Oh well. CDC has some funky looking pink, of course.
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#117
02-03-2020, 08:32 AM
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https://velocio.cc/collections/mens-...softshell-vest This has nice features: High collar Big zipper Dual zipper
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#118
04-26-2020, 11:32 AM
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#119
04-26-2020, 12:25 PM
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Just picked up a PAS Normal long sleeve jersey. My god is it amazing. I have tried them all out there and the fabric is just perfect. I’m hooked and will be selling my other stuff to buy more PNS.
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#120
04-26-2020, 12:35 PM
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