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You seem both fun and knowledgable about how bike shops operate.
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His post is anecdotal. I worked at a shop that employed women and there were no problems with behavior toward them from employees or customers. Just because that was the case at our shop doesn’t mean the whole industry is as kind to women. Also, asking a female who answers the phone to speak to a mechanic does not mean she’s being treated poorly. It’s only a problem if the female says she is a mechanic and THEN the person says they want to speak to a male mechanic. Otherwise, the customer simply isn’t making assumptions about that person’s role in the business. Sounds courteous to me.
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It's easier to think it's just "water finding it's level" than to consider that there might be discrimination, which would require one to rethink their world view and perhaps act in different ways. But no, if I think it's just a matter of preferences, or that individuals aren't working hard enough, then I can comfortably sit back and not have to do anything. Quote:
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As a career framebuilder following this thread and its several drifts I’m adding that my barber is a woman, as were the two before the one who presently cuts my hair. Barbers. Not stylists. Barber shops. Not salons. And all at one chair shops in the small towns I’ve lived in. The message is no one is keeping anyone from doing anything according to my opinion, out there or in here (the bicycle industry) where I work.
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30 years ago there were multiple gals (had to throw a little bait out) at the bike shop. Some were good at it, some not so much. Some lasted, most didn't, just like the guys. If you work retail and are gonna get huffy every time you are not fully respected, you’re gonna be pretty unhappy much of the time. Even if you identify as a pedal wrench. The job is to help the customer by selling them the correct tube and tire or adjusting the shifting so their bike works right. Its not to get validation of your feelings. Validation comes on payday or when you get promoted or a raise or a customer thanks you or the boss praises your good effort. Do a good job and get rewarded. Last edited by HenryA; 09-19-2021 at 12:03 PM. |
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Bike rumour did a few podcasts with female builders. They are worth a listen.
Also shut up build bikes interviewed pedalino. It was also interesting. Last edited by pdonk; 09-18-2021 at 09:14 PM. |
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Instead of hypothesizing on the internet or pretending there’s no problem, maybe actually ask women and people of color how they are treated in cycling communities and at bike shops. A lot of you will be surprised if you listen.
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I would strongly disagree with this and encourage you to think about why women commute at basically the same rate as men, but don't race or work in the industry at nearly the same rate. You'd probably learn a lot by googling something as simple as "sexism in the bike industry" and reading perspectives that come from other races, genders, and ages that are less than adequately represented in this thread.
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