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BUT - don't you find that you want a different position for different types of riding? I generally have the same reach from saddle to bars on all of my bikes, but how I achieve that reach can vary quite a bit. On the all-road bike, it's more stack, a bit more setback, and a longer TT. On the performance road bike, it's much less stack, shorter TT, saddle a bit more forward, and everything rotating kind of down and forward. On a gravel bike, it's a longer TT, less drop, wider bars, shorter stem, and middling setback. And I want different saddles for all three, different bar tape too. Swapping wheels, changing stems, swapping chains, different RD, different saddle, different bars -- you get to the point where you're jumping through all of these hoops to try to have a "quiver killer" and you're practically rebuilding a bike every time you want to ride different terrain -- and why? It's not like the OPEN is cheap, or that multiple wheelsets are cheap. If someone is going to have $6K wrapped up in their bike hobby and they want to ride both road and gravel, I'd recommend two bikes. But that's just me... |
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That Taylor would be my favorite bike of yours - if I didn't know about the Spectrum |
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There is also for me, a sense of mental adaptability that I enjoy in having a single drop bar bike: wei-pal's post seems to touch on this. It isn't the perfect bike for all situations, but in learning to work with what you have, there is a sense of contentment. I've sent this bike down some sketchy singletrack, stuff that would be much more suited to my mid-travel 29er. I've taken it on some epic Rocky Mtn pass-hunting paved rides. It's not the perfect bike for either of those situations, but we can't always have perfect, ya know? "You do you" is right, we're all different, all we can share is our own experience. |
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I also set up my bikes pretty much identical, so I've thought of this too. Basically one bike with two sets of wheels: 700x32 slicks and 650x48 semi-knobs.
But then I start looking at Nick Crumpton's site and quickly close the window. |
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So 700x32mm for roads and 650x48 for gravel? |
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Yup, or maybe 700x28. I find anything over 32 is too squishy on pure road for me.
(my roadie is currently a Parlee and gravel bike is a generic china CX frame) Weight is the other big one I suppose - the Parlee is sub-15 pounds with pretty generic build up (ultegra, alloy wheels, etc) |
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Why don’t you go for 700x35 (or 700x38) on gravel? Or is this what you have on your generic china CX frame? |
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+1 on the people that also make each bike setup pretty identical. I am also ok with a few mm off but usually everything is pretty similar, no matter gravel or road.
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Either my routes are 90/10 pavement/super groomed (in which case 700x28 slicks are fine) or it is 30/70 pavement/somewhat stupid dirt. Like my Saturday route: https://www.strava.com/activities/2453166372/ Saddle time-wise: 2 hours pavement 30 min groomed dirt 15m pavement 2h:30m marginal dirt 40 min pavement 1h:40m pretty stupid dirt 45m pavement/super groomed dirt 45m stupid dirt 45m pavement For the record, I destroyed a tire on this ride. |
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n ≠ n+1
I sincerely hope that one bike never becomes the one, for me.
The U.P.P.E.R. looks awesome. Is it pricier than the Stigmata? |
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yes, by like twice.
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Check this out if you want the ultimate in versatility (I have no relation to Rondo):
https://rondobike.com/ |
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And yes just bikes. Different bikes and builds for different kinds of riding. Was thinking about down the road when room for bikes may well become less room. For now, that's not an issue but it's one of those "what if" musings. It's certainly fun to try out different frames and gear as well as terrain. Quote:
Fewer bikes to maintain = more time to ride or work on trails. The options for bikes today are amazing and a design like the OPEN really makes me ponder why more than one drop bar bike. There's still the mountain bike : ) Last edited by SpeedyChix; 06-18-2019 at 07:53 PM. |
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I have an Open and also have a SPecialized Sworks Tarmac 2016 with Carbon wheels. I just got my Open in April, but did not touch my road bike from September to April. I was on my CX bike.
I would have no issue using just the Open with multiple wheel sets (I currently have 2 sets for the open, GravelKing 38 x 700 and 650 WTB Resolute 42) If I was just to have the Open, would have a nice set of Carbon road wheels and tires. Unfortunately I dont have that much gravel close to me, If I lived in Colorado or some other places, I would only ride gravel, maybe occasionally road. I have enjoyed the fast group ride on my Sworks, however I dont think I would miss it that much if I just had the Open. The only issue with the Open is that there is no place to put a cadence sensor except on the outside of the crank. If I was only having one bike, I think I would want a Powermeter and with the Open would be limited to one or 2 choices. As good as the Open is, my one and only bike would be a custom Ti. |
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