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02-17-2020, 08:27 PM
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Sram red 10 speed shifters Rival front deraillur Force rear Sram red black front brake Tectro(I think) direct mount rear Williams ACS handlebar(about 230g) FSA Energy 110mm stem with Ti bolts Currently FSA SLK cranks with Praxis rings(took the Sram red GXP/rival PM off) Wheels are handbuilt by me: Front-3T Accelero 40 pro rim to American Classic 58 hub, laser spokes(about 700g, not bad for a deep aluminum rim) Rear is a Tune hub to Kinlin XR31T rim with laser NDS, Wheelsmith DS. About 835ish grams Conti Grand prix tires(5000front, 4000s 25mm rear), latex tubes Lizard skin bar tape Speedplay Zero Stainless pedals. x11sl chain sram red xg1090 cassette. Just weighted it again at 16.08lbs with the garmin mount and elite aero bottle cage mount. Not bad. As the bike shops would review it without pedals, cage, or garmin mount, it would be just about 15.3 or so. 
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02-17-2020, 08:42 PM
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After some research I just bought a Madone too. I loved the Bianchi, but the geometry did not work for me. Venge was not pleasant and I did not love the Pinarello either. My local Trek shop is great and after reading many outstanding reviews and favorable test ride I decided to give Trek a try.
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02-17-2020, 08:58 PM
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Certainly gives me some food for thought
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02-17-2020, 08:58 PM
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Responding to the OP, in a word YES!.
I would love to get one, I was always about light but I would love to get on the aero bandwagon. I am not sure it is my budget right now so I haven't looked at any particular models yet, but the idea of going faster sounds very sweet to me. I would love to get one with rim brakes so that might make it a bit tricky.
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02-17-2020, 09:38 PM
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02-17-2020, 09:47 PM
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Another vote for not lusting, just enjoying. I'm mid 50s and ride similarly fast (28+, avg 25-6 mph) group rides routinely. I'm also mildly retro-grouch (still drag out the 27 year old Giordana to shock and hang with the young'uns) but picked up a Scott Foil when the disc version came out in 2018. It was a revelation. Not just because of the aero gains, which were probably pretty marginal, but I also finally got some more aero wheels over my trusty Open Pros, so when we were in the upper 20s or faster, closing gaps & sprinting, heck yeah you could feel it. no doubt majority of that was in the wheels, but the frame surely didn't hurt and moreover, since this latest generation of bikes are allowing for fatter 28c tires (which don't feel one bit slower), along with the dropped seat stays transmitting road shock less directly to your seat, it really was a "stiffer but more compliant" ride that is usually the fodder of marketing dept's. That's one of the things that gets lost in the beaten-to-death disc brake debate (and I've said this before): it's not just about the brakes, it is also the seat stays can be dropped for aero and ride quality, and the frame no longer needs a rear brake bridge so that area too can be a little more compliant. I hate sounding like a shill for Scott (and most of the designs are pretty similar anyway) but they definitely dialed back the stiffness of the original Foil which was known to be a teeth rattler, whereas my bike--to my great surprise, and again some/much of this is thanks to the 28c tires--floats over the crap pavement when compared to my 2007 Bianchi with carbon stays mated to steel front triangle running 25c tires and comfy 32h Open Pros, but the Foil is much stiffer (in a good way) at the bottom bracket and head tube. So don't let the ride quality be an immediate deal breaker. Depending on the bike, it might actually be better.
ps as much as I'm digging the Foil, I have bike envy for the new Addict RC: they took lots of the aero gains of the Foil, kept it lighter, and made all the cables disappear (and just as importantly, kept the damned thing easy to service--you can swap stems and bars without messing up the cables). Unfortunately, my inner retro grouch prefers a good old round drop bar that is neither shallow nor ergo so I couldn't get quite that integration of cables for now, but they are some pretty bikes. A good friend just sprang for the premium model and it is stunning. I guess technically it is not the "aero" bike in Scott's range, but it looks pretty close to the Foil and has gotten some great reviews. Oh, also have a friend on the Oltre. He loves it and swears by the countervail--same story, stiff but somehow comfy ride. link to Addict RC review Last edited by giordana93; 02-17-2020 at 09:49 PM. Reason: added link
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02-17-2020, 09:58 PM
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A few years ago Specialized loaned me a Venge, so I took it out on a club ride and won all of the town lines in style. I didn't like the ride of the Venge and I wound up on a Tarmac, but the speed and acceleration of the made an impression. This year I'm coaching a few good sprinters, so I'm looking to regain the speed I once had. I bought a Venge.
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02-17-2020, 10:20 PM
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I have a 2019 BMC TimeMachine Road since spring of last year.. very content with it. Being a weightweenie @ heart... 7.4kg is tough to swallow sometimes when you had bikes down to 5.5kg
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02-17-2020, 10:22 PM
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02-17-2020, 10:34 PM
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I noted in parentheses that the average is closer to 25, but there are plenty of 28 mph bursts. It is dead flat around here and we're not talking 50 milers, more like the evening 30 mile blitz. It only takes a couple monsters dragging us along to reach those speeds. Kids are fast these days.
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