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Old 09-16-2018, 04:40 PM
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Totally agree.
Paceline has about 300 active users? Highly unlikely that anyone here can run a 4:38 mile.
I ran a 4:40 . . . once.
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Old 09-16-2018, 04:57 PM
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I ran a 4:40 . . . once.
4:21 in college track. Coach said I should move up to steeple or 10k as we had 8 guys faster than that already. There were 3 Kenyans, 2 Ugandan and 1 guy from Zimbabwe on the team. Built for running - amazing athletes and even better humans.
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Old 09-16-2018, 05:08 PM
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What makes the Berlin marathon so fast? It seems to be the site of many record runs.
The airfare from Nairobi is cheaper.
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Old 09-16-2018, 05:13 PM
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Agreed, that is amazing! He could've paced me on my commute!!!!! That's just super-intense to run at that pace for 2hrs!

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Old 09-16-2018, 08:16 PM
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What makes the Berlin marathon so fast? It seems to be the site of many record runs.
I once ran 1km in close to 3:00 min, and i was shattered after that. doing that and better 42x in a row is beyond my imagination.
Berlin is as flat a course as they come. Älso, a relaxed attitude of the organizers toward pacemakers may help. Given that, i believe the current times are close enough to give a chance we might see the 2:00:00 fall, all it takes is a day with ideal conditions.
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Old 09-16-2018, 09:46 PM
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Totally agree.
Paceline has about 300 active users? Highly unlikely that anyone here can run a 4:38 mile.
I ran a 4:09 and did a marathon course in just under 2:30. These guys are so far beyond anything I could do that it's quite humbling. I can't wait to see a sub 2 marathon.
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Old 09-16-2018, 10:17 PM
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Pretty crazy.

My brother ran today too. 2:41 (8 minutes slower than his PR), but he was ecstatic to just finish, he's been crazy busy with work and had to cut back his training a lot, so he had no expectations.
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Old 09-16-2018, 10:44 PM
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I ran a 4:09 and did a marathon course in just under 2:30. These guys are so far beyond anything I could do that it's quite humbling. I can't wait to see a sub 2 marathon.
4:09!!! WOW - hats off to you - You are FAST - 10 seconds from breaking the coveted 4 minute mile - and 26 seconds off the world record.
Does your speed translate to cycling? Which do you find more difficult (for me it is running).
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Old 09-16-2018, 11:48 PM
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I ran a 4:09 and did a marathon course in just under 2:30. These guys are so far beyond anything I could do that it's quite humbling. I can't wait to see a sub 2 marathon.
I'd say what you've done is pretty great!
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Old 09-17-2018, 12:39 AM
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4:09!!! WOW - hats off to you - You are FAST - 10 seconds from breaking the coveted 4 minute mile - and 26 seconds off the world record.
Does your speed translate to cycling? Which do you find more difficult (for me it is running).
It's difficult to tell as I had a series of injuries that ended my running career and slows me to this day on the bike. A marathon is extremely difficult, I have yet to do anything on a bike close to that. I think that being on the bike at the limit demands more in the way of cardio fitness.

Thanks for the compliment, but, to put my performance in perspective, I was locally fast, regionally competitive and irrelevant nationally. In cycling terms Cat2ish.

Sub 3:50 milers and low 2 marathoners are very special athletes. Massively impressive.
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I ran a 4:09 and did a marathon course in just under 2:30. These guys are so far beyond anything I could do that it's quite humbling. I can't wait to see a sub 2 marathon.
I was one of the herd...I once ran a just under 5 minute mile and thought I was gonna expire..best marathon was 3:09..the guys I felt for were the ones that finished with the elite women..those n the 2:20-2:25 range who, altho very good distance runners, probably wouldn't ever get to the elite level..

I was built for comfort, not for speed..I could run all day but my 10k/10miler/1/2 was the same pace as a marathon..meaning slow for the shorter distances..BUT I saw the light(injuries) altho I still like the simplicity of running..shorts/shoes...go run..anywhere. Bikes seem awfully 'busy' and involved by comparison..and much more expensive.

"I got my tan off the coast of Iran"..5 times around the flight deck was...1 mile.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:05 AM
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It's funny how every race distance has its time barrier that separates good/decent from very good/great. As an indication of my age, in HS all our races were in yards. I was a sprinter, and the two barriers I chased (but never broke) were 10secs for 100 yards and 50secs for the 440.

I remember a few times our coach had us sprinters do a few timed 880 repeats. My god, a half mile seemed like forever back then.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:15 AM
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4:46 was my fastest mile way back when.

i often wonder what it would take for me to run a sub-5 mile these days?

gosh, i can still remember that feeling of seeing the finish line on the back 100 stretch, having my vision narrow to almost nothing and just feel like moving in slow motion and that line was just never getting any closer.

i hope that one or more of my kids will get into track and field. i used to really enjoy going to the meets and cross country especially.

i also think it kept me out of a lot of trouble in HS. i remember most days getting home from practice, hungry as a horse, and tired. lots of kids went out after classes and got into lots of stupid situations, i could barely keep my eyes open long enough to watch some TV and go to bed!

agree with Peter too - even these days, still love the purity of running. especially when travelling, just bring a pair of shoes along and run anywhere. no need for "gravel" shoes either!
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:17 AM
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I wonder how many cyclists are injured ex-runners?
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:18 AM
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I wonder how many cyclists are injured ex-runners?
that was the only reason i started cycling
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