Know the rules The Paceline Forum Builder's Spotlight


Go Back   The Paceline Forum > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #106  
Old 09-14-2018, 10:44 AM
Burnette Burnette is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,473
Craptastic

The belief that all the stuff we buy makes such a huge performance difference is just complete and utter crap. Frames, wheels, ShimSRAMCamp, I don't care what people buy they still finish the ride with the rest of us with the same average mph.

It's crap how much love and loyalty to a fault that we devote to brands in general. People tout how they are smart and didn't drink the marketing Kool Aid and then turn right around and post five pages in a Rapha/Campy/SRAM/Shimano/Assos thread. I see red, green and purple tongues everywhere, Ha!

The belief that Pro Cycling means much to the average and even enthusiast cyclist is crap. We nerds follow it but most don't watch or care. I didn't even watch the TDF this year myself.

It's crap that we argue in efforts to divide ourselves into little camps based on brands and component use when we should work to unify. I mean we wear funny clothes, wear a funny hat with funny shoes, smear creams and oils on our butts and legs and ride a bicycle, A BICYCLE!, for hours to nowhere in sometimes horrid weather and terrain conditions. And we call that fun!

We ain't normal and are a minority. If we're fighting over stupid stuff it just makes it easier to round us up and put us in the back of the van.
Reply With Quote
  #107  
Old 09-14-2018, 10:48 AM
BikeNY BikeNY is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Westchester County, NY
Posts: 614
Quote:
Originally Posted by Burnette View Post
The belief that all the stuff we buy makes such a huge performance difference is just complete and utter crap. Frames, wheels, ShimSRAMCamp, I don't care what people buy they still finish the ride with the rest of us with the same average mph.

It's crap how much love and loyalty to a fault that we devote to brands in general. People tout how they are smart and didn't drink the marketing Kool Aid and then turn right around and post five pages in a Rapha/Campy/SRAM/Shimano/Assos thread. I see red, green and purple tongues everywhere, Ha!

The belief that Pro Cycling means much to the average and even enthusiast cyclist is crap. We nerds follow it but most don't watch or care. I didn't even watch the TDF this year myself.

It's crap that we argue in efforts to divide ourselves into little camps based on brands and component use when we should work to unify. I mean we wear funny clothes, wear a funny hat with funny shoes, smear creams and oils on our butts and legs and ride a bicycle, A BICYCLE!, for hours to nowhere in sometimes horrid weather and terrain conditions. And we call that fun!

We ain't normal and are a minority. If we're fighting over stupid stuff it just makes it easier to round us up and put us in the back of the van.
Reply With Quote
  #108  
Old 09-14-2018, 11:37 AM
cmbicycles cmbicycles is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 5,058
Quote:
Originally Posted by Burnette View Post
The belief that all the stuff we buy makes such a huge performance difference is just complete and utter crap. Frames, wheels, ShimSRAMCamp, I don't care what people buy they still finish the ride with the rest of us with the same average mph.

It's crap how much love and loyalty to a fault that we devote to brands in general. People tout how they are smart and didn't drink the marketing Kool Aid and then turn right around and post five pages in a Rapha/Campy/SRAM/Shimano/Assos thread. I see red, green and purple tongues everywhere, Ha!

The belief that Pro Cycling means much to the average and even enthusiast cyclist is crap. We nerds follow it but most don't watch or care. I didn't even watch the TDF this year myself.

It's crap that we argue in efforts to divide ourselves into little camps based on brands and component use when we should work to unify. I mean we wear funny clothes, wear a funny hat with funny shoes, smear creams and oils on our butts and legs and ride a bicycle, A BICYCLE!, for hours to nowhere in sometimes horrid weather and terrain conditions. And we call that fun!

We ain't normal and are a minority. If we're fighting over stupid stuff it just makes it easier to round us up and put us in the back of the van.
I think you need a time out, these viewpoints make sense... I mean they are obviously nonsense.
Reply With Quote
  #109  
Old 09-14-2018, 11:47 AM
cmbicycles cmbicycles is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 5,058
Incremental gains are believable, and the sum of the incremental gains is rather exponential in the end... 1 second here plus another second doesn't equal a mere 2 second advantage, no it gives you minutes of advantage over everyone else.

"After all YOU work hard so YOU deserve the best." Obviously no one else deserves nice stuff, just me. I don't deserve to have, nor do I have, "the best-newest-greatest-latest-game changing", but I'm happy to ride decent stuff while I can enjoy it.
Reply With Quote
  #110  
Old 09-14-2018, 01:49 PM
93KgBike's Avatar
93KgBike 93KgBike is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Down South
Posts: 1,294
I think helmet safety has an empirical basis, at this point.

If you face-plant a lot, you should wear a full-face-helmet like the extreme bicyclers, I guess.
Reply With Quote
  #111  
Old 09-15-2018, 06:15 AM
booglebug booglebug is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Virginia
Posts: 575
Big fat tires at lower psi are always faster
Reply With Quote
  #112  
Old 09-15-2018, 07:05 AM
saab2000's Avatar
saab2000 saab2000 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 10,517
That Campagnolo 10-speed is the best stuff ever.
Reply With Quote
  #113  
Old 09-15-2018, 07:09 AM
colker colker is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 3,000
The cycling forum is my family.
Reply With Quote
  #114  
Old 09-15-2018, 08:52 AM
choke's Avatar
choke choke is offline
il Curmudgeoni
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Middle of nowhere
Posts: 3,844
Old components are junk and the new stuff is way better.

In the last few years I've spent a lot of time riding vintage groups and it all works just fine....in some cases I might dare say even better than newer parts. The new stuff may shift a hair faster but for me it's not enough of a difference to matter. The only actual advantage that I can see to newer components is that they are lighter.

Along those same lines:
Single pivot brakes are dangerous.
Deltas won't stop you.
__________________
"I am just a blacksmith" - Dario Pegoretti
Reply With Quote
  #115  
Old 09-15-2018, 10:35 AM
Black Dog's Avatar
Black Dog Black Dog is offline
Riding Along
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Rockwood ON, Canada
Posts: 6,237
Quote:
Originally Posted by colker View Post
The cycling forum is my family.
Is this just for you or universal?

I have seen some acts of generosity, true support and compassion on this forum that would make most families blush. We bicker and disagree but for the most part folks here will treat each other like brothers and sisters when needed.
__________________
Cheers...Daryl
Life is too important to be taken seriously

Last edited by Black Dog; 09-15-2018 at 10:41 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #116  
Old 09-15-2018, 11:12 AM
colker colker is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 3,000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
Is this just for you or universal?

I have seen some acts of generosity, true support and compassion on this forum that would make most families blush. We bicker and disagree but for the most part folks here will treat each other like brothers and sisters when needed.
Universal.
Reply With Quote
  #117  
Old 09-16-2018, 08:24 PM
martl's Avatar
martl martl is offline
Strong Walker
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,050
Quote:
Originally Posted by BikeNY View Post
Well, I've had 2 crashes where if I wasn't wearing a helmet my wife would now be a widow, so I never ride without one...
I've had crashes where, had i worn a helmet, i would doubtless be dead without one. (have that on medical authority)
__________________
Jeremy Clarksons bike-riding cousin
Reply With Quote
  #118  
Old 09-17-2018, 04:30 PM
DarkStar DarkStar is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: North of Vermont
Posts: 531
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Tornado View Post
Showering & leg shaving the night before a race makes you weak.... I think I read that Sean Kelly said that IIRC.
Raced plenty during the 80's, shaved night before a important race and felt like crap during the race. I'm with Sean on this one
__________________
Quia tristis cervisia
Reply With Quote
  #119  
Old 09-17-2018, 04:48 PM
Ti Designs's Avatar
Ti Designs Ti Designs is offline
Ride 'yer bike.
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Arlington MA
Posts: 6,313
Pedaling a bike is natural.
__________________
If the pedals are turning it's all good.
Reply With Quote
  #120  
Old 09-18-2018, 11:42 AM
MisterMurray MisterMurray is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 56
Not crap - The placebo effect is mighty powerful.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:35 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.