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"You can also run 28-42mm tires with tubes, and make sure you only run UST approved tire for tubeless use."
So, you have to run Mavic tires only if you want to run tubeless? Or do they just "have to" say that? |
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And I am sure that dark brown hubs and logos are not helping sales of the rim or disc brake model. Dark brown is an acquired taste. |
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But... For my money, handbuilts just make so much more sense for all-road applications than factory wheels with proprietary spokes. |
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The link to the wheelset at Excell seems to have now vanished, after I got my order in for one pair. The Planet Cyclery deal includes in stock and free 2-day shipping, so I ordered a pair from them as well! Stock showed (4), then (2) only minutes later, and that was before I put my order in, so maybe there is one pair still remaining. $279, just wow. I'm hoping that I will like the 30mm Mavic tires (the smallest size that Mavic paired with these rims). I should be able to ride almost literally anywhere. Thanks for the link pdmtong! |
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https://www.excelsports.com/main.asp...jor=13&minor=4 I have purchased small stuff from Planet before. When I was mulling some campagnolo brakes they were helpful and willing to actually grab the part from inventory to confirm the exact year and model number. note that campagnolo north america WILL NOT warranty anything campagnolo bought from Planet. so beware on wheels if that makes you nervous I get that many would prefer hand builts on C2 or C2+. Go for it! Pay 2x a much! Be happy! These mavics have the improved hub internals and come with good enough tires. heck, the tubes alone are worth $8 each with the price of tubes these days. Its 65% off ...! dddd...glad you scored and you are welcome... |
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I do not want to take the chance that if for some reason I need to return them I will pay a 10% re-stock fee with Planet Cyclery even if they are still in new condition. |
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And, Excel has always done right be me so far... |
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Interesting that Mavic refers to the tire casing as 120tpi.
Either that is extremely fine (as in 3x120) or very coarse (as in 3x40) weave. Then there is another wrap-over layer that runs bead-to-bead, not sure if it's a fine/slick HD layer or a gator-type open weave(?). They suggest very low pressure for the 30mm tires on i22mm rims, and I'm wondering how slow that might feel out on the road. |
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I'm seriously considering these as well, but I have a question:
Will my Shimano BR-R650 calipers work with the 30mm external width of these rims? Excel's listing for BR-R650's says 26mm max. Are they being too conservative? What road bike caliper brake can take a 30mm rim? |
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According to the Excel website: "Rim spec: 22mm internal, 26mm external, 21mm asymmetrical profile height" They come with 30mm tires; is that what you mean? Almost all mid-reach brakes (r-600, r-650, tektro, TRP RG957, Velo Orange, etc.) will fit a 32mm tire or 28mm tire with fender. Last edited by NYCfixie; 03-08-2019 at 04:43 PM. |
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Yes, my bad. Went back to read the specs and you are correct! I was considering building up a set of Belgiums, but I cannot justify it if these are really available. Pre-order submitted.
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So will other tubeless tires work with these wheels? Need some wheels for my Ritchey Swiss Cross that I want to throw some Gravel Kings 38c on
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These appear to be hookless as I looked at some non-photographic illustrations from Mavic, so having UST standards in both rim and tire should allow a more-reliable minimum blow-off resistance without inconsistencies in rim preparation requirements or mounting difficulty. The hookless designs are considerably more durable in theory at equivalent rim weights, so ideal for running tubeless at low pressures. |
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