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Old 11-20-2023, 03:44 PM
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Different sealants for different conditions

Please do not give up on road tubeless.

There are a couple web pages that may be insightful. Using your favorite browser and your favorite search engine, you ought to be able to find these pages using the phrase "sealant test" on slowtwitch. You might find a brand that takes the pain out of handling larger puncture sizes.

The only complaint I have, to date, is the waiting. The air pressure needs to drop some. Five minutes, sometimes longer, before adding air and moving on. Preferred over tire removal, etc.

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Old 11-20-2023, 03:49 PM
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What tires were you using?

I think the bacon strips work pretty well. I usually push them in a bit and snip off the extra. The stuff that works its way up usually will wear down with the road or the sealant will get stuck and stop things from moving out more.
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Old 11-20-2023, 04:17 PM
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bacon strips will indeed backout over time.
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Old 11-20-2023, 05:03 PM
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What tires were you using?

I think the bacon strips work pretty well. I usually push them in a bit and snip off the extra. The stuff that works its way up usually will wear down with the road or the sealant will get stuck and stop things from moving out more.
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Old 11-20-2023, 05:23 PM
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There are a couple web pages that may be insightful. Using your favorite browser and your favorite search engine, you ought to be able to find these pages using the phrase "sealant test" on slowtwitch. You might find a brand that takes the pain out of handling larger puncture sizes.
Please post a link. The only thing I found there was a two part test with sealant in inner tubes, not tubeless tires. Other stuff is four years old now. I don't think these stab tests mirror real world results either.
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Old 11-20-2023, 05:25 PM
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Sealant, "Bacon strips" and plugs have always been a temporary budget fixes for automotive tires, why would anyone expect there use to be anything more on a bicycle tire? Anyone telling you different will gladly sell you land in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
Permeant tire repairs require internal patching with the appropriate materials and tools.
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Old 11-20-2023, 06:44 PM
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If you want messy tires, wake up and smell the Tubasti.
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Old 11-20-2023, 06:57 PM
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I'm sure a wider rim and a wider tire at lower pressure than those Mavic ones, and your experience would probably be different.
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Old 11-20-2023, 07:33 PM
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I thought about going tubeless, then I watched this and decided to forget it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyNvg-3fivY

I sort of know this guy he is local.
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Old 11-20-2023, 07:42 PM
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Each tubeless post, at least once a week, takes me back to fast team rides when some guy would cross-chain and snap a rear derailleur. I don't know why people want derailleurs. Then there's the guy who never replaces his cleats until one snaps off during a ride. Everyone should ride flat pedals with sneakers.

Tubeless tires are just another component that requires attention and no amount of anecdotal evidence will change that.
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Old 11-20-2023, 09:09 PM
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If you want messy tires, wake up and smell the Tubasti.
I like Tubasti, but I would never submit to the trouble that is involved with tubeless…
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Old 11-20-2023, 10:13 PM
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If you currently have a real problem with flats on too many rides, you might need to think of a wide tubeless setup.
If you don't have real trouble with constant flats, tubeless is actually MORE trouble than running tubes.
For mountain biking, tubeless is a godsend. The low pressure and increased traction works with the flat protection to make riding much better.
For road riding, tubeless at high pressures just doesn't work as well. It doesn't want to seal and a big hole throws sealant all over your friends and needs a plug anyway. Trying to dismount a tubeless on the side of the road is very difficult. Yes, it has SLIGHTLY lower rolling resistance and if you are a high level racer, that could make a difference.
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Old 11-20-2023, 11:26 PM
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If you currently have a real problem with flats on too many rides, you might need to think of a wide tubeless setup.
If you don't have real trouble with constant flats, tubeless is actually MORE trouble than running tubes.
For mountain biking, tubeless is a godsend. The low pressure and increased traction works with the flat protection to make riding much better.
For road riding, tubeless at high pressures just doesn't work as well. It doesn't want to seal and a big hole throws sealant all over your friends and needs a plug anyway. Trying to dismount a tubeless on the side of the road is very difficult. Yes, it has SLIGHTLY lower rolling resistance and if you are a high level racer, that could make a difference.
That sums it up pretty well ...
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Old 11-21-2023, 12:04 AM
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Mavic Yksilon UST.
Oh, stop that.
The first tubeless tire I tried. Two punctures in a week, one the tire bubbled and let go and the sealant still worked. Horrible tires. Moved on to Conti's 5000 (older version) and only two punctures in thousands of miles.
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Old 11-21-2023, 12:11 AM
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Sealant, "Bacon strips" and plugs have always been a temporary budget fixes for automotive tires, why would anyone expect there use to be anything more on a bicycle tire? Anyone telling you different will gladly sell you land in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
Permeant tire repairs require internal patching with the appropriate materials and tools.
Let's see...I plugged a tire last year. Still holding, but the tire could use being replaced. You're right, it was a temporary fix. And it helped my budget.
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