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06-10-2021, 11:09 AM
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Wow -- best rant in a long time DCRainmaker lets loose on Shimano
Grab your popcorn as this goes viral.
Most amazing and well-written rant I'm seen in quite a while... 
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#3
06-10-2021, 11:48 AM
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That was a fun read. Glad it does not apply to me. I like the quote at the end:
“With that, I’ll end on a Japanese proverb that seems appropriate: “If you understand everything, you must be misinformed”
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#4
06-10-2021, 11:56 AM
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This is what I would expect from Shimano, but I was a little surprised he uses a Pioneer. The way the fitness industry works, this is typical for buyouts. And in general, it's best not to buy anything at all that depends on a company maintaining a remote server. Say what you want about Garmin, but their devices work just fine never connecting to the internet.
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#5
06-10-2021, 12:01 PM
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oh man, that was a great read while I sip my coffee.....sucks for him and all the other Pioneer users, but honestly, I don't know a single person with one of these. I'm sure he has many other platforms at his disposal.....doesn't change the fact that it's a mess though.
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#6
06-10-2021, 12:25 PM
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That was the most remarkably entertaining script I've read in a long time, it's like " please tell us how you really feel Ray!" Awesome, kind of a "shock and awe"... Just another Shima-no! moment...
Last edited by A1A; 06-10-2021 at 12:47 PM.
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#7
06-10-2021, 12:35 PM
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Enough/plenty level of BS the folks that use will not re-task and a segment of users for this will just say I had enough. 1/2/3 less things to keep charged anyway...
You have to think this was the plan upon the Pioneer purchase... Well, I have to. 
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This foot tastes terrible! 
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#8
06-10-2021, 12:56 PM
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Wow this is pretty nuts, I actually had a Pioneer computer last year, when the sale was announced I called Pioneer and they said not to worry, Shimano would be continuing to support the line, but I had a bad feeling and sold it...
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#9
06-10-2021, 01:00 PM
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The power meters aren't ant+? That seems like it would be a big warning sign, if true.
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#10
06-10-2021, 01:11 PM
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The basic power data from what I understand are ant+ so those should continue to work on any Garmin/Whaoo etc.. head unit, however Pioneer had some advanced metrics that other power meters don't have and those are only visible on the Pioneer head units.
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#11
06-10-2021, 01:27 PM
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Never ever buy anything that has to "call home" to function.
It's rarely worth the frustration.
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#13
06-10-2021, 01:30 PM
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I don't know why people are surprised or upset by this.
This is the norm when sucking the teet of software updated technology. Anyone with a smartphone knows this. Sonos is probably the most famous recent example. Cars are all headed this way... it's going to happen more often.
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#14
06-10-2021, 01:48 PM
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Quote:
you can brick your tractor by using non-Deere parts to repair.
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#15
06-10-2021, 01:50 PM
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I don't have much to add other than I'm chuckling about a bunch of OCD triathletes who "can't ride" for the supposed 12 day window that the powermeter won't work. That it's a "paperweight." It's not a paperweight... it's still a functioning crank.
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