Silca Ti cage - $70, really?!?

[hellvetica]

Maybe if you're cage didn't look pretty much identical to the KING cage, you'd have an easier time justifying it. Don't act so "surprised."

[R3awak3n]

Originally Posted by hellvetica

Maybe if you're cage didn't look pretty much identical to the KING cage, you'd have an easier time justifying it. Don't act so "surprised."

I mean, its a bottle cage, they all look the same.

[Dino Suegiù]

Originally Posted by joshatsilca

Sorry to be late to the party, just now finding this thread!

I'm surprised to see so many people thinking this is out of line, the King Ti cages are $60, Wolftooth Ti Cages are $70 and the Supacaz Ti cages are $65, and none of them come with hardware. The SILCA cages come with US made, certified 6/4Ti bolts with oversized heads, probably the finest water bottle bolts ever offered, and an item that we sell a lot of as they improve performance of other cages as well. So relatively, I think we offer quite a lot of value in this category, and that's before you even consider the details like the laser welding technology used in the manufacturing of the product.

Whether or not you want or need Ti cages is another story altogether, but I can assure you that after building a US manufacturing facility, staffing it with skilled employees who make a living wage with benefits, all operating high quality custom machines, tooling, and aerospace laser welders, to stamp, form, cut, lathe turn, form the tube, deoxidize, butt weld, marry together, deoxidize again, plate weld, dimensionally inspect, and finally hand buff each cage for a total of more than 40 minutes of direct hand labor per cage across more than a dozen pieces of machinery, that if you were to come here and see it first hand you might wonder how the heck we can sell them for ONLY $70.

Thank you for taking the time to reply here, at length.
As previously mentioned the prices are not exorbitant at all.

Never mind the naysayers.

[Dino Suegiù]

Originally Posted by R3awak3n

I mean, its a bottle cage, they all look the same.

No kidding. The level of negativity on this forum is sometimes really astounding, and pointless.

Titanium frames look pretty much the same too. So do bicycle forks. So do wheels. So do stems, posts, handlebars. Ad infinitum, etc.

There are only so many ways to make a cat, and at least the King/Moots/Silca are much better looking cats than that MSW abomination.
Purr....

[Big Dan]

Still don't needed.

[93KgBike]

Originally Posted by hellvetica

...you're [sic] cage didn't look pretty much identical...

100% agree with R3awak3n. And revise to agree with Angry Scientist.

What is this thread doing back ay the top?????

[EliteVelo]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

i find threads like this unbecoming.

it's a premium niche product with premium niche pricing.

as you mention, there are plenty of alternatives, if this does not suit you, no pressure to buy. why start a thread to complain about a product that you neither need or intend to buy?

Again, agreed! Just don't buy the product. The Ti cages I offer, as attached, are double the aforementioned.

[nmrt]

there are others out there, actually.

Originally Posted by 93KgBike

100% agree with R3awak3n. And revise to agree with Angry Scientist.

What is this thread doing back ay the top?????

[m4rk540]

Originally Posted by EliteVelo

Again, agreed! Just don't buy the product. The Ti cages I offer, as attached, are double the aforementioned.

But those have a purpose. If they didn't match the outrageously irrational price of the bike, the owner would feel ripped off.

[EliteVelo]

Originally Posted by m4rk540

But those have a purpose. If they didn't match the outrageously irrational price of the bike, the owner would feel ripped off.

Irrational????
Appreciate the dialogue....however, as all builders know, and I hope you chime in, the last custom frame I ordered took over 400 man hours. At a price a hair shy of 5K, that's more than likely less than what most people make/hr. Again....leave it alone or just don't order. Know your facts or move on.

[m4rk540]

I thought Ti Legends were 10k USD. If I'm off by 5 grand, I appreciate the correction. As for the word, irrational, I used it as a social scientist or bad economist. Veblen goods and all that.

https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/7...normal-luxury/

[peanutgallery]

Get a storefront and you can buy the cage for quite a few $ less. Argument over

Josh is what I would consider a "good guy" in the industry. If you want a deal...man up and put the the $ where it matters. Easy, peezy

[I Want Sachs?]

Originally Posted by Clancy

Sorry, Silca makes some cool stuff no doubt but their advertising hype is often over the top and with their roll out of their new Ti cages, the BS machine has gone into warp drive.

I just can’t see where this thing is worth $70. Is one buying a truly innovative and improved product or perceived status and exclusivity?

Blackburn makes a killer cage that sells for $55. So is one paying 15% more for the name?

Sorry, I just don’t get it. But I also don’t get Rapha either. I find their advertising to be completely pretentious, but that’s a different rant.

Silca does make some very fine products so I won’t put them in the same league as Rapha, but their new cages are bumping up against them.

Forgive me, it’s been raining non stop here in The Texas Hill Country

You paid $55 for a cage from Blackburn? Crazy! I got this for $5 https://www.blackburndesign.com/cage...le-cage-4.html

[jtbadge]

Originally Posted by I Want Sachs?

You paid $55 for a cage from Blackburn? Crazy! I got this for $5 https://www.blackburndesign.com/cage...le-cage-4.html

$55 for ti tho

https://www.blackburndesign.com/swer...ttle-cage.html

[I Want Sachs?]

Got it.

My point was that $55 calling $70 expensive, when $5 can serve the same function.

It is basically how one justifies what is value. Everyone is free to spend how they please. I definitely would buy the $70 from Silca before $55 from Blackburn if I was going Titanium at all.