SRAM RED cage pivot retaining pin

[dddd]

I did a search on this topic and have struck out.
It appears that SRAM doesn't even include this vital wear part in their ROAD derailer PDF diagrams, only showing the complete exploded cage assembly and with said pin presumably included(???).
Or is the pin considered part of the derailer body? Will I have to buy a Rival derailer to get this one tiny part for a RED derailer?

This pin wears out very fast from looking at one here with only a few k miles that allowed the cage pivot to slide out of place toward the spokes. Seems hazardous!

Anyway, I need about ten of these pins, the one with the tiny phillips head and mostly-unthreaded straight section.

I'm guessing that others here have dealt with this, but my searching skills aren't finding anything.

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Just call their customer service number, they've always been extremely helpful. You'll have an answer and maybe even a part

[yinzerniner]

Originally Posted by dddd

I did a search on this topic and have struck out.
It appears that SRAM doesn't even include this vital wear part in their ROAD derailer PDF diagrams, only showing the complete exploded cage assembly and with said pin presumably included(???).
Or is the pin considered part of the derailer body? Will I have to buy a Rival derailer to get this one tiny part for a RED derailer?

This pin wears out very fast from looking at one here with only a few k miles that allowed the cage pivot to slide out of place toward the spokes. Seems hazardous!

Anyway, I need about ten of these pins, the one with the tiny phillips head and mostly-unthreaded straight section.

I'm guessing that others here have dealt with this, but my searching skills aren't finding anything.

A pic would be worth a thousand words as to what you're talking about. Are you talking about the limit screws, or the rear b adjust screw, or the cable anchor bolt? If it's just the limit screws and/or cable anchor bolt the following kit should have you covered:
https://www.amazon.com/Force-Rival-D.../dp/B002SQRU5W

Pretty good video here from Arts about how to adjust SRAM RD's, with corresponding steps indicated in text below, to indicate the exact part you're speaking of.....
https://www.artscyclery.com/learning...railleurs.html

That being said, in my experience finding the exact SRAM small parts is pretty tough, but finding like replacements that work as well (if not better) is pretty easy as long as you know the exact part name and google for a replacement. Case in point - on my SRAM FD's I've replaced all the limit adjustment sockethead screws, as the ones that SRAM supplies tend to get striped really easily, and they're pretty short as well so they don't offer a lot of adjustment.

Again, take a pic, post it, and then people can offer slightly better help

[dddd]

I looked at some SRAM assembly PDF's and was surprised that the pin (straight pin with tiny Phillis head and a few mm of threads below the head) isn't shown at all! It is apparently considered part of the derailer body and not supplied as a separate part, so is not shown, and of course with no call-out on the derailer's exploded diagram.

What seems odd is that this pin wears heavily in use, yet no replacements.
Perhaps a new Apex or Rival derailer is the only source.

Update; I called their offices and was told that the entire P-knuckle including the inner cage plate is considered to be one part, and not sold separately. They advised that the derailer must be replaced!

I'll look into using hardened drill rod of some certain size, then figuring out how it might be secured using the head-end of the existing screw that I will have to grind shorter.

I notice that SRAM offers cage parts for their off-road derailers, and also notice that these are secured with a sort of circlip and not a pin.

Thanks for the suggestion to call their service department.