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Looks like this is happening, Hertz just purchased 100,000 Tesla's. www.nytimes.com/2021/10/25/business/hertz-tesla-electric-vehicles.html Tesla has a 400 mile range now which is around 6 hours of highway driving and in their next released vehicles, they will have a 500 mile model. You live in Boulder and you should be seeing it. I was at the gym yesterday, 11 cars in the parking lot and 4 were Tesla's.
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The DOHC was a surprise.
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I want a car that I can drive for more than a few hundred miles before running out of fuel. At present, electric cars are great for running around town, but not much more. If I wanted to drive from Loveland to KC, I'd be sitting I the middle of Kansas looking for a charging station, then waiting around with nothing to do while the car recharges.
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Let's get back on topic. This is a 'vette thread.
I just watched some of the video and the car does look incredible. It would have been huge fun to be on the team that designed, built and tested this car. The engine looks remarkable. I would love the opportunity to drive one of these. What is the MSRP? I wonder what volume of production they will achieve? Like superbikes, I can hope to own one in about 15 years on the used market
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I'd guess DOHC shouldn't be too much of a surprise when they're going for an 8400 rpm redline. I definitely like that part and that's why it sounds so good.
It's basically what the new NSX should have been, or at least a lot closer to what that car should have been. The horsepower war part does seem utterly pointless though. All the light weight, suspension tuning, steering tuning.. that all has a point but when it's still going to get absolutely smoked by a Tesla with 4 adults in it that can turn around and cruise at the equivalent of 100mpg the whole lots of HP ICE thing just seems utterly silly given how much fuel this car is going to suck down to move 2 people. |
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I really hope porsche can develop that new fuel they are talking about so we can keep ICE going for a lot longer. Of course dailies will be EV but weekend cars, track cars, ect it would be nice to keep all these classic cars without ipads for screens and with a sound that adds to the experience of driving. People that don't enjoy driving will not get it and yes some cars a obnoxiously loud and if you live on a busy street it can get on ones nerves but on a track or a back road, its wonderful. I think I bought my last ICE car and I think its the perfect last one. RWD, 400 something hp, manual transmission. There are some really good options right now for the last drivers cars. To me this vette is not it because of no manual trans but we have that new Lotus coming out, toyota 6 cyl engine, manual trans, looks amazing. Not in production anymore but any bmw M2 and of course Porsche gt4 and gt3. The only sad thing is that you can't get anything right now, everything is selling over msrp or is just not available. oh also on the cheaper end the of course Miata and the toyota 86 which would be my choice over the miata unless you wanted a convertible |
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Yep, so was my C5 ZO6. I remember making one trip where I averaged ummmm more the 90 mph for a fair distance and still got 29 mpg. I was impressed.
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It's rated 24mpg on the highway but I'd guess that's a zero fun driving type of scenario. 55mph in the right hand lane in 6th gear on cruise control.
It's 17mpg combined. You will have to stop and fill it more frequently than you'd have to charge an electric car.. I bet real world this car is not making it to 300 miles before the low fuel light comes on. I've only ever driven a C5.. the one I drove was only 350hp and it already seemed like too much engine for the chassis/suspension/brakes/steering. Only fun in the same silly way a hot rodded Harley Davidson is fun to certain people. It's still at least a very pure car. Glad it's not a hybrid.. the hybrid supercars are the silliest thing going. But then it also broke the whole Corvette tradition. It'll be interesting to see how long it stays around as an MR car with an ICE. None of the range stuff matters at all to me fuel or electricity. In the northeast corridor you're generally not traveling 200 miles before you're very very very ready to get out of the car for a long break. 200 miles could easily be 4 hours of stressful traffic, completely different than out west where it could be < 3 hours of empty road and high speed. Last edited by benb; 10-27-2021 at 09:11 AM. |
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[QUOTE=AngryScientist;3002545]Let's get back on topic. This is a 'vette thread.
What is the MSRP? Based on the pricing of the C7 ZO6 my guess would be somewhere between $100,000-$120,000 depending on options and level of comfort.
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