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10-09-2021, 10:18 AM
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I have a set of Corsa 28mm on my 3T Strada, and a set of Corsa Control 28mm on my TCR. I have swapped the wheel sets between the bikes, as well as a third set of deeper wheels with GP5000TL. I honestly like the feel of the Vittoria stuff more than the Contis. I couldn't really put a finger on just what it is about the Vittorias over the Contis, but they feel a bit smoother, and grippier. And the Corsa Control doesn't feel much slower than the other two, and just from appearance, would certainly offer a bit more grip, and puncture protection. Bicycle Rolling Resistance largely confirms this, with the Control version only being only a watt /2% slower, and only 10 grams heavier. Those two options are only two or three watts slower than the GP5000's. 
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10-10-2021, 02:46 PM
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The new conti gp5k TR will be available in tanwall as well as blackwall, and they're adding 30c to the mix. Vittoria's are fine but they last me about 1/3 as long as the gp5ktls do, so I'm on conti.. conti grand prix 5000s tr
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10-12-2021, 11:02 PM
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Have heard great things about the Rene Herse tires. Haven’t tried the 32s yet, but looking to get a pair for the upcoming winter.
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10-13-2021, 05:49 AM
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"The Stampede Pass requires tubes." I think it is unwise to recommend tubeless setup when the manufacturer says that they require tubes.
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10-13-2021, 01:46 PM
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I guess so, please don't use them as tubeless unless you are Ted King and need to race them for 200 miles.
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10-13-2021, 03:17 PM
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10-13-2021, 03:39 PM
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https://www.iamtedking.com/blog/roll...iy-bwr-round-2
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10-13-2021, 03:57 PM
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I freaking love that bike and was stoked to put some 32c Rene Herse Stampede tires on, jury rig them to be tubeless, and tear my way across Vermont.
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10-23-2021, 12:17 AM
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10-23-2021, 12:25 AM
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Panaracer’s tubeless tires all seem to have bead consistency problems. Even two of the same model from the same run will have vastly different setup experiences. They almost never mount without at least a second wrap of tape. Using a tube helps but pretty much every other brand of tires don’t need one to get a bead set. Then you have RH’s sealant seepage to deal with.
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10-23-2021, 03:40 PM
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But yeah, the seepage is a bit annoying on EL/standard casings.
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10-23-2021, 03:56 PM
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The Supple Vitesse are really nice riding and affordable, but not tubeless, IFAIK. They are really supple, but on the lightest models only offer RH-extralite like durability. I just wore clean through the center tread of their 650b model, but it did get me ~3000 miles.
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10-23-2021, 04:01 PM
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This is the opposite of my experience with Panaracer Gravel Kings--I've set them up with a floor pump on a range of tubeless rims and they have not weeped or lost air and have lasted a long time. And they are cheap enough that I'm not scared of killing them on some hidden road debris. The brand that has given me nothing but trouble is WTB--my 650b x 47 Horizons leak around the bead and I've heard that is a problem with that model. That said, both brands make a lot of tire models so maybe generalizing isn't fair. I know some love WTB tires.
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