OT: Oops we did it again (USN not Britney Spears)

[Bruce K]

The guided Middle cruiser USS John Mcain collided with a merchant ship off the coast of Singapore.

This is twice in 2 months.

What is up with this?

BK

[William]

Someone testing some jamming equipment???






William

[chuckroast]

Maybe it was a Maverick ship....

[dustyrider]

Originally Posted by William

Someone testing some jamming equipment???






William

Lonestar!!! Haha.

[Llewellyn]

It's becoming a bit of a habit isn't it.

[alancw3]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40995829

[2metalhips]

There was a guest on NPR who said there has actually been 4 incidents recently. I assume the other 2 were "minor", if there is such a thing.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by 2metalhips

There was a guest on NPR who said there has actually been 4 incidents recently. I assume the other 2 were "minor", if there is such a thing.

A run aground in Jan, a collision with a fishing boat, Fitzgerald and now McCain..poor seamanship, poor navigation skills, over reliance on technology at expense of basic seamanship(?)...less operating days for sure, crews getting rusty, complacent ?

[parris]

OP just a question about the training and such. Could some "expert" or "experts" in an office have come up revised training guidelines/P&P's in order to cut costs due to a reliance on tech?

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by parris

OP just a question about the training and such. Could some "expert" or "experts" in an office have come up revised training guidelines/P&P's in order to cut costs due to a reliance on tech?

Don't know but I think the old 'red right returning' and 'even red nuns have odd black cans' type stuff isn't emphasized I think.

[PaulE]

I'm wondering if the Russians or Chinese have some new undetectable jamming equipment, or if the Navy changed/relaxed any policies about personal cell phones or internet access for personnel working on the bridge.

[jimcav]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

Don't know but I think the old 'red right returning' and 'even red nuns have odd black cans' type stuff isn't emphasized I think.

maybe it has changed, probably no more "steer by seaman's eye" anyway

[Jaybee]

Originally Posted by PaulE

I'm wondering if the Russians or Chinese have some new undetectable jamming equipment, or if the Navy changed/relaxed any policies about personal cell phones or internet access for personnel working on the bridge.

Suppose that's possible, but there are "no technology required" failsafes that any USN navigator/watch should be ready and able to use, especially in one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world. Things like maps/compasses/watchmen posted fore/aft, etc.

[sc53]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

A run aground in Jan, a collision with a fishing boat, Fitzgerald and now McCain..poor seamanship, poor navigation skills, over reliance on technology at expense of basic seamanship(?)...less operating days for sure, crews getting rusty, complacent ?

My brother, retired Marine, says same thing as you Ole P. I called him with a *** is going on with the US Navy? Whole 7th Fleet needs refresher course in Basic Seamanship. Brother wondered if they no longer had guys physically standing watch with naked eye at all times.

[seanile]

Originally Posted by chuckroast

Maybe it was a Maverick ship....

i just got this