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Old 02-06-2007, 01:34 AM
quehill quehill is offline
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Hey Que, tell us about that IFTi bike. I'd like to read your thoughts on what you like/dislike about the bike.
Jack,

The IF is a fantastic bike overall. It handles and fits great. Indy Fab has been beat up around here in the past for having some wacky geometries, but I have to say my experience hasn't borne that out. The handling is on the quick side of neutral, very like my Pegoretti actually... though ever so slightly slower at the front end.

The paint and detailing are also first rate. I went for a pretty conservative cream panels on British racing green color scheme, but between the graphics and that sweet headbadge the bike still has that funky urban cool vibe that Vanilla has recently cornered the market on.

As for the negative... I would say that the ride (road feel as opposed to handling) is less tuned than some of my other bikes. The frame is plenty stiff in the BB and has that springy ti road feel thing in spades, but it feels a little less refined and all-of-a-piece than some others. Randomly, I think my ti Lemond, which doesn't get a ton of bike geek respect (despite the fact the design and tube spec was done by Gary Helfrich) has the Indy beat on that count.

Cheers
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Old 02-06-2007, 06:54 AM
Gothard Gothard is offline
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Colnago Bititan
Colnago C35
Colnago Master Titanium
Serotta Legend
Serotta Hors Categorie
A Richard Sachs coming
Salsa La Cruz
Dean Ti MTB

Wifey:
Colnago Bititan
Serotta Legend
Serotta Ottrott
Schwinn Al team Mtb
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Old 02-06-2007, 07:46 AM
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One Richard Sachs cross.

Two sets of wheels.

If I hear the word "stable" used again, my head will explode. Pass the duct tape.
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:27 AM
BigDaddySmooth BigDaddySmooth is offline
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Frames that are built up
1) '03 Della Santa
2) '03 Yamaguchi compact
3) Bridgestone 500--doesn't really count as it is my trainer bike

Ex-frames
1) Tommasini tecno
2) Strong foco
3) Pegoretti Fina Estampa
4) Bianchi SLX celeste

On the look out for
1) Spectrum steel
2) CSi
3) J.P. Weigle
4) Pegoretti custom team
5) Yamaguchi time trial rig
6) Moser leader AX
7) Ritchey road logic
8) Steelman stage race
9) Richard Sachs
10) Peter Mooney
11) Eisentraut
12) Dave Kirk

In no particular order, of course
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:40 AM
FierteTi52 FierteTi52 is offline
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No bare frames and it's better that way

Built Bikes
1991 Serotta NHX 8spd D/A
2001 Serotta Hors Ultegra 9spd Triple ( Father borrowed permanately)
2003 Serotta Fierte Ti 9spd D/A
2003 KHS Softail Cross Bike 9spd Ultegra
2006 Kirk Terraplane 10spd D/A

Mountain Bikes
1988 Specialized Stumpjumper 7spd XT
1996 Trek Y-22 full suspension 8spd XT

A few misc junker/ city bikes too
Jeff

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Old 02-06-2007, 10:21 AM
Climb01742 Climb01742 is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Brunk
Here's mine:

Serotta Meivici
Serotta Ti track bike
Look 595 Ultra
Look 595 Origin
Colnago E1
Colnago 1977 Super Neuvo record never been on the road
Colnago Master
Colnago Pista track bike
Colnago C40 fixie
Colnago Master X Light
Olmo Professional
De Rosa Lugged
Moots Compact SL
Moots Cross/Touring
Moots Ti Smoothie
Ibis Silk Ti
Soulcraft Single Speed mountain


Incoming:
Brunksawa Atmo Pista
Vanilla ( undecided due 7-07)
Serotta Meivici (5 weeks)

Others as needed.
jack, how will your incoming meivici differ from the one you have?
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Old 02-06-2007, 10:52 AM
rdparadise rdparadise is offline
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My fleet pales in comparison to some of you guys. Where do you keep all of those bikes?

1. 98' Csi-My main summer riding bike;
2. 93/94 Trek 2200-Winter, night riding road bike;
3. Litespeed Blue Ridge-main touring/commuter bike-not getting much use in the winter;
4. Meridian Aluminum MTB/Road Tandem-Can't get the wife on it these days.
5. Raleigh-1975 Supercourse. Collecting dust in the basement.-Mmmm-lugged 531 Steel!

Regards,

Bob
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Old 02-06-2007, 11:00 AM
Jack Brunk Jack Brunk is offline
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Climb,

I'm playing around with the carbon stiffness. I want to try the 10.5 chain stays to see how they differ than the 8.5. No changes in the geo. I want it to be a dedicated climbing bike.
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Old 02-06-2007, 11:14 AM
iml iml is offline
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Current:

Anvil road
Anvil 'cross
Rock Lobster Easton Scandium 'cross
Moots Mooto-X 29er MTB
Jamis Supernova (fenders, grime, total crapsack of a bike)
Schwinn cruiser (ancient and rusty)

Next? If Ferris won't build me another bike, then more Moots, or Eriksen, or Vanilla, or Desalvo.

Err, let's replace "or" with "and."
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Old 02-06-2007, 11:21 AM
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Grant McLean Grant McLean is offline
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1979 Colnago Super Campag NR
1980 3 Rensho Super Export
1982 Raleigh Professional Nouvo Record
1986 Colnago Super Super Record/SSC
1988 3 Rensho Katana lugs superbe
1989 DeRosa professional Dura Ace 7402/SSC rims (never ridden)
1992 Ritchey P-23 ritchey wcs/xt
1994 Bridgestone XO-1
1994 Serotta CRL dura ace 7410 STI
1997 S-Works M2 XTR mavic crossmax
1998 Serotta Legend Ti 7700 dura ace/carbon cosmics
2001 Bianchi EV Ti record/neucleons
2002 Seven Axiom Ti Record/Kysriums
2003 Colnago C40HP Record carbon/Eurus
2005 Cannondale Saeco Six13 Record/Kysriums silver
2006 DeRosa King X-light Record Carbon/Eurus
2006 Richard Sachs Geesawa Record 99, handbuilts
2006 kalavinka traditional road Dura Ace 7401 7sp
2006 kalavinka keirin pro Dura Ace 7600
2006 Nagasawa Keirin Sugino/Superbe/Nitto

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Old 02-06-2007, 11:45 AM
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More from the Western front

Ready to ride -
2004 Pegoretti Marcelo
2004 Moots Compact SL
1996 Motorola Caloi Paris Roubaix Team
1994 Specialized M2 Road Pro (out on loan)
197X Motobecane Grand Record

Wall Art -
Colnago Bi Titan (cracked)
1993 Eddy Merckx Team Motorola SLX (one of many LA training bikes)

Unbuilt, to be sold -
2004 Moots Vamoots

SoCalSteve, and the rest of the Tour de PS Serotta-gang, I'll be with a small group this Saturday and I'll keep and eye out for your creamsicle Kirk. I'll be the slow, overstuffed dude on the Moots SL, an oxy-moron if there ever was one, with the red white blue Limar 911 helmet. Group buddies will include a six-13, Seven ID8, GT Lotto team bike, and Trek 5200, all old and slow. Steaks, Scotch and Cigars later that day, location TBD.
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Old 02-06-2007, 11:57 AM
Climb01742 Climb01742 is offline
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Climb,

I'm playing around with the carbon stiffness. I want to try the 10.5 chain stays to see how they differ than the 8.5. No changes in the geo. I want it to be a dedicated climbing bike.
do you know the stiffnesses of the other tubes and the fork? i'd be curious about how you've designed front and rear. were you able to tune/balance drivetrain responsiveness with a forgiving ride? i'm guessing if you're going to 10.5 you're looking for more (pick your word) snap or jump? with 4 tubing options, the combinations must be interesting. thanks for letting me be nosey.
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:11 PM
GoJavs GoJavs is offline
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Currently on rotation:
LeMond MJ
Waterford 1200
Tesch 101
Landshark
GT Steel MTB
Bridgestone XO-3

Currently in storage awaiting instructions:
Bridgestone RB1
Bridgestone RB2

Currently in semi-built status:
John Howard

Currently on the hunt for:
Lemond Poprad
Other steel cyclocross
Touring bike


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Old 02-06-2007, 12:19 PM
FlaRider FlaRider is offline
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Here's my list:

Built (in no particular order):

Serotta Ottrott ST
Pinarello Paris Carbon in Illes Ballears colors
Pinarello Montello FP8 TT Bike
Cyfac Gothica custom carbon
Curt Goodrich custom
Peter Weigle custom
Zank custom
IF Ti Crown Jewel (custom paint by JB)
Peg Love 3 in Team Nerac colors

Sold:

Parlee Z1
Calfee Tetra Pro
Calfee Dragonfly
Spectrum Ti Super
Serotta Legend Ti (x2)
Serotta CSi
IF Ti Crown Jewel
Chris Kvale custom
Dave Kirk custom (x2)
Richard Sachs (x2)
Scott CR1 SL
Seven Odonata
Seven Axiom steel
Merlin Extralite
Steve Rex custom
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:13 PM
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Cool thread -- albeit somewhat tough to read. I have to let my wife read this thread which will either totally screw me because she will see you guys as a bad influence OR she will feel sorry for me and agree to the next project.

Kirk Terraplane Lugged - Pure Record (except for ZG brakes) RS Red and black by JB, does it get any better?

Indy Fab Planet X - Team paint- steel cross (Custom geos, sweet comfortable ride)

CoMotion Americano full bore tourer (beautiful 3 color fade) I probably do not do justice to this frame as I do not tour that much but it is still fun to load it up and head out for a day of whatever comes along.

Frame/Fork/Crank Serotta Concours CS (Onyx with Comp. Red lettering - stunning) I am trying to sell or trade this one for MTB/SS project.

Wife's bike - Trek 5200



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CURRENT UPDATE

It would be interesting if everyone who posted to this thread initially would update. As for me......

Sold the Kirk (***?) It now lives with another forumite which makes it a little easier to accept.

Still have the IF.....oh hell yeah.....my favorite bike and I use it for everything and it performs wonderfully. So damn comfortable. The only bike that has that _disappears beneath me_ ride. OK, so maybe it's a little heavy but I don'care. Hey Tony P, don't know if you ever check in on the forum any more but if you are around......you NAILED IT when you specced the geo on this bike.

CoMotion is gone. Never really _connected_ to this bike. Never was able to realize it's full potential. It was a great bike just too overbuilt for me. It was my own fault, I probably should have gotten the Nor'wester. I will say it was fine craftsmanship and it was cool to have a single bike with those massive tandem hubs. Beautiful paint.

Serotta Concours is now fixed thanks to White Industries and Mike at 66fixed in St. Petersburg. This is the most fun I can remember having on a bike since I was a kid. Hmmmmmmmm, those were onegears also. This build has taught me to pace myself. Whenever I rode by myself, which is more often than not I would always blow up toward the end of the ride. I have this habit of going too hard at the beginning of a ride and thus the blowing up. The first time I did my regular 50 miler from the driveway on the fixed Serotta I could not believe how great I felt as I pulled back into the driveway. I have that experience every time I ride it. It just works. I know that it is faddish and I am enjoying it so much that I have ordered a new frame with horizontal dropouts. It's not going to be a track bike because I ain't up to that and I have no track close but I do susupect it will be my daily rider (now if I could just find time to really ride every day). The only issue with this beautiful Serotta frame is that someone at the factory built a backache into it. I don't know what to do as I have tried numerous builds with the same result. It really bums me as it a fantastic bike. Standard geometry 58cm Concours CS in Onyx with Competition Red lettering. When I get the new frame I intend to finally sell this bike to someone with the appropriate back. They will love it i am sure.

Wife still has the Trek 5200.....wish she would ride it more often.

I am so thankful to all of you guys on this forum and I cannot begin to tell you how much I have learned as a result of hangin' here.

Eric

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