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Old 01-11-2020, 11:54 AM
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Old 01-11-2020, 11:59 AM
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Lugged carbon frames will always be better constructed than monocoque frames.
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Old 01-11-2020, 12:23 PM
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Colnago IS the best bike frame..prove me wrong...

Again, the guy's name is on the down tube..what do ya expect him to say?
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Old 01-11-2020, 01:05 PM
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Old 01-11-2020, 01:13 PM
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That C64 is gorgeous. Far better looking than the "melting " look of the tubes of the Pinarello. The Pinarello gets great accolades though. I just prefer more traditional looks I guess.
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Old 01-11-2020, 01:34 PM
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He's rightfully proud and his carbon bikes have the palmares to back him up. 1996 Paris Roubaix - three C40s if I recall correctly.
It's not the machine, it's the motor.
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Old 01-11-2020, 01:45 PM
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I remember the first Colnago I ever saw, probably around '73 or so. Walked into a bike shop and there it was, sitting in the middle of the floor. There was an otherworldly light surrounding it and I swear I heard the faint sound of angels singing.

Unfortunately, that bike was destroyed when it was being transported around in a van and a big pile of bike lockers fell on it
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Old 01-11-2020, 02:12 PM
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It's not the machine, it's the motor.
In this case the 3 motors were heavily modified... Full EPO chips and tuning.
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Old 01-11-2020, 02:41 PM
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In this case the 3 motors were heavily modified... Full EPO chips and tuning.
Yep and yep but still, if I recall the C40 was the first carbon bike to win at Roubaix; Motorola was if I recall correctly, on MX Leaders and rebadged Litespeeds(I have Andreu's 94 bike and Mapei dominated those years). To me it demonstrated that a carbon frame could withstand the rigors of the classic courses rather than strictly being lightweight climbing machines.

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Old 01-11-2020, 04:41 PM
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I would think that the pinnacle of engineering with CF would be a shaped monocoque structure rather than lugs and tubes. The advantage is putting the material where it does the most work, without duplication. So I'd question that a lug and tube design would be the best CF frame.

The analog in aluminum are the Cannondale frames like my old CAAD 10, where the members were so heavily shaped, no longer constant cross section tubes (whether round or square or twisted like the Lynskeys)
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Old 01-11-2020, 04:51 PM
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I think the advantages of monocoque over lug and tube are a little overblown from a structural point of view. They make the monocoque frames out of pieces anyway, they just paper over the joints.

Can't argue with the aesthetics though
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Old 01-11-2020, 05:00 PM
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Ernesto Colnagoā€™s achievements in cycling and his innovation over the decades should be enough to quiet some of the scorn in this thread.

Colnago bikes have always been desirable since I got into bikes in the early 1980s and they remain so today. They have been relevant for decades, winning races at the highest level on all terrains.
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Old 01-11-2020, 05:34 PM
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Not taking personal shot at proud Colnago owners here, but I had a Master Light, worst riding bike I ever owned, hands down. Like a go cart is how I would describe it. Very low BB, just an awful racing bike, which is how it was branded. And it weighed nearly a ton, I called it my Master Heavy! . Also, I seem to recall another brash Italian boasting about the ā€œbest bikeā€ and although it began w/letter C, it was as far off from a Colnago as one could get!

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Old 01-11-2020, 06:04 PM
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Not taking personal shot at proud Colnago owners here, but I had a Master Light, worst riding bike I ever owned, hands down. Like a go cart is how I would describe it. Very low BB, just an awful racing bike, which is how it was branded. And it weighed nearly a ton, I called it my Master Heavy! . Also, I seem to recall another brash Italian boasting about the ā€œbest bikeā€ and although it began w/letter C, it was as far off from a Colnago as one could get!

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/ce/e4/ba/c...io-history.jpg
Do you have a picture of the bike
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Old 01-11-2020, 06:06 PM
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