2018-2019 Calcio Futbol Football Thread

[martl]

Originally Posted by wc1934

Another player I am not crazy about (I seem to have many - haha) - Ribery, had a pretty decent game but for some reason was subbed early.
Game getting chippy and calls not made.

Sad to say but Rib is past it, 5 years earlier he would have torn the Scousers a new one, they were nothing special (still better than Bayern, mind you). He wouldn't have started had Coman not just recovered from a torn muscle fibre.

I know Ribery and, to a lesser extent, Robben are not highly regarded outside certain german areas but unjustly so. There was a time when Rib was a serious contender for a ballon d'or, and Robbens class is undisputed.

They have god-like status among Munich supporters (watch this -sound switched off if you wann stay sane) if you want to know why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFzQqbnzikg

They even painted them inside the stadium (yes, the "Kurve" did this)

[goonster]

Originally Posted by martl

5 years earlier he would have torn the Scousers a new one, they were nothing special

It wouldn't kill you to give some credit. Mane scored a special goal, and van Dijk is pretty good at football.

All the pundits thought Bayern would go through, at home, after the Wolfsburg thrashing and reacting to the Loew thing.

[echappist]

Originally Posted by martl

Sad to say but Rib is past it, 5 years earlier he would have torn the Scousers a new one, they were nothing special (still better than Bayern, mind you). He wouldn't have started had Coman not just recovered from a torn muscle fibre.

I know Ribery and, to a lesser extent, Robben are not highly regarded outside certain german areas but unjustly so. There was a time when Rib was a serious contender for a ballon d'or, and Robbens class is undisputed.

They have god-like status among Munich supporters (watch this -sound switched off if you wann stay sane) if you want to know why.

you could not have been any more obnoxious if you tried. no one cares about the hagiography of a rapist (Ribery) and a cheat (Robben)

such arrogance, no wonder your ilks are so despised anywhere outside of München.

[wc1934]

Originally Posted by martl

Sad to say but Rib is past it, 5 years earlier he would have torn the Scousers a new one, they were nothing special (still better than Bayern, mind you). He wouldn't have started had Coman not just recovered from a torn muscle fibre.

I know Ribery and, to a lesser extent, Robben are not highly regarded outside certain german areas but unjustly so. There was a time when Rib was a serious contender for a ballon d'or, and Robbens class is undisputed.

They have god-like status among Munich supporters (watch this -sound switched off if you wann stay sane) if you want to know why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFzQqbnzikg

They even painted them inside the stadium (yes, the "Kurve" did this)

No, I think Robben is highly regarded (clutch in big matches) and a great footballer - speed and cuts with the ball were top notch, as were his crosses. Ribery in his prime was good too, but his antics and fouls/red cards/dirty play was what turned me off. He seemed to relish that bad boy persona.

[martl]

Originally Posted by echappist

you could not have been any more obnoxious if you tried. no one cares about the hagiography of a rapist (Ribery) and a cheat (Robben)

such arrogance, no wonder your ilks are so despised anywhere outside of München.

Rib was accused using the services of an underage hooker (consentual). If that is your definition of "rape", you may wanna google the real meaning.

Edit: Both Benzema and Ribery were cleared as it couldn't be proven anyone knew she was not of legal age - no conviction happened. As opposed to the US, age of consent in France is 15. The escort used the publicity gained by the trial to start a modelling career, several media performances, and started a fashion label.

To use "no one" when what you really mean is "i", and then call others arrogant - ye well. Cheers, mate.

[Mzilliox]

they are just footballers, all of them, and humans. not gods, not even heroes really. just footballers

[martl]

Originally Posted by Mzilliox

they are just footballers, all of them, and humans. not gods, not even heroes really. just footballers

you are very mistaken about this. Fussballgods are real.

[martl]

Originally Posted by goonster

It wouldn't kill you to give some credit. Mane scored a special goal, and van Dijk is pretty good at football.

All the pundits thought Bayern would go through, at home, after the Wolfsburg thrashing and reacting to the Loew thing.

Is that so? most gave Pool a good chance, and before the first leg, the media i saw, even the german ones, were musing how many Bayern would get at Anfield. I did write (you left that out in the quote) that Pool played better than Bayern and they deserved to advance, still i think even this very ordinary '19 Bayern side would have had a shot at advancing had Kovac shown some courage.
Still neither leg was anything for the historybooks, was it. Two rather dull matches from both sides.

[goonster]

Lording past glories, and seizing the narrative by insisting that the other club prevailed against a terrible, horrible, no-good version of your team is . . . maybe not the classiest way to be a fan?

Furthermore: I’m (also?) German, and when I hear “Fußballgott” there’s only one player that comes to mind, and he wears a St. Pauli shirt now.

[echappist]

Originally Posted by Mzilliox

they are just footballers, all of them, and humans. not gods, not even heroes really. just footballers

indeed this

apotheosis of sportsmen/women is straight up idiotic.

[echappist]

a few cracking matches

[wc1934]

Champions League:
🇳🇱 Ajax vs 🇮🇹 Juventus
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Man Utd vs 🇪🇸 Barcelona
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Liverpool vs 🇵🇹 Porto
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Spurs vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Man City


Europa League:
🇮🇹 Napoli vs Arsenal 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
🇪🇸 Villarreal vs Valencia 🇪🇸
🇵🇹 Benfica vs Frankfurt 🇩🇪
🇨🇿 Slavia Prague vs Chelsea 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[wc1934]

echappst - you are on it - you must have posted as I was typing -

[wc1934]

Intersting list - Pep # 5.

criteria:

'What is a great coach? How to compare two major technicians to sometimes more than half a century of distance? And, in the end, what is the best of them, all times combined? In order to make its choice and establish its Top 50, France Football has chosen three main criteria - the club winners, the trace and the legacy left on the game, the personality - to which is added, implicitly, a fourth: the duration and the impact of the career.'

https://en.onefootball.com/%F0%9F%93...s-of-all-time/

[goonster]

Nice to see Lobanovski and Happel so high on the list, but Bielsa is much too low, and Rijkaard has no place in a group like this.